so....do any of you believe in some person in the sky floating around called jesus?
or having a relationship with that person (or god) who is in some other dimension apparantly?
being a witness, they stressed so much having a relationship with "jehovah" and all that.
Hi the monster
I think its important to feel inspired, purposeful and connected but at the same time to feel free to continue exploring - to me Jesus and God represents that in an imaginative way - just as a picture tells a story. The important thing is not to feel confined but to feel a sense of expansion and space.
bernadette
when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.
i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.
not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .
nvgnbk this is love ...just keep your head down welcome to the family
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/6449027.stm.
two decades of abuse went unseen the foster children of eunice spry face a lifetime of counselling, after suffering years of physical, mental and sexual abuse at her hands.
the abuse was not spotted by health professionals over a period of 20 years.
Hi blondie
folkyc has also started a thread re the above but thanks anyway
sorry double post
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/6449027.stm.
two decades of abuse went unseen the foster children of eunice spry face a lifetime of counselling, after suffering years of physical, mental and sexual abuse at her hands.
the abuse was not spotted by health professionals over a period of 20 years.
Hi blondie
folkyc has also started a thread re the above but thanks anyway
my wife 'rowan' was born and raised a jw, her father being an elder -a very gentle loving person, but an elder.. some years ago, she was betrayed by a close friend, subjected to a jc and was disfellowshiped & shunned.
the proceeding was completely void of mercy and love, it was much like a violation, a rape.
finding herself df'd was of course terrifying, but the most disapointing outcome was that her father sided with the elders.. eventually she discovered through select books, articles and this board about the fear-driven mind control ways of her religion.
Rowan I'm very sorry over what the wts has done to you.
Nature, time and rest are the best healers
best wishes and hugs to you both
love
bernadette
when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.
i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.
not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .
Sorry that you are leaving and don't feel the board is for you for the reasons you have stated.
Perhaps in time you'll come to see the board as a melting pot, sometimes a flaming cauldron in fact - but what comes out of it, eventually, is devoid of any pretentious stuff - that to me is completely unlike Jehovah's witnesses.
Jesus was very outspoken and forthright when the occasion demanded - didn't they say 'who can listen to this shocking speech?'
bernadette
whether you were over the wt or not, how has the forum helped you?.
does it still help you or are you here strictly to help others?.
did the forum get you through any rough times?
Hard to explain abr
I think I'd have to say it has brought me back to life. Am now seeing my life, and life around me as an ongoing forward moving process whereas as a JW I was stuck going backwards and every aspect of myself was in disagreement and disarray, a slow death - feel more coherent and alive now. understand how you feel nvrgk.
a post about shunning and how we didnt have to just accept it but could show that our door of unconditional love was open even if theirs was shut prompted me to e-mail an immediate family member who i had not seen since a grandparents funeral (i am not da/df but faded too quick and married to non dub).. just came back from coffee with them, and when they left they thanked me for suggesting that we meet up!
this person is a pioneer and maybe didnt feel comfortable suggesting it themselves?!
yay.
good thinking bluebell - it also gives them the opportunity to see that you haven't fallen apart without jehovah's witnesses and maybe your unconditional love will impart some confidence to start reasoning on things independently.
i don't think so lol.
lol.
lol.
You kept it light and conversational - its hard to be patient
ayhra, .
please dont do anything rash, like hurting yourself, or killing yourself, .
this is a permanent solution.
(((((((ayhra))))))))
Sorry if i sounded very harsh against the jw religion, I think I will always be like that because of the damage I see that it has/is doing to people.
Your Aunty sounds like a very kind, caring person and has been taken in by a false story just as we all were. I myself have been a witness for 30 years and am trying to help my own family who are trapped. Many of us are in that situation.
I'd be really glad if you came back and talked to us.
love
bernadette
