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  2009 DC Drama Critic

  by bobld in

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  why did not the father take to heart the counsel and wisdom of the faithful slave (gb)?what kind of example did he set for his sons?.

  circa 1970:the counsel of the faithful slave to teenagers was to go pioneering.they would not complete high school because the end was so near.they would not get married in this system let alone have children.i'am not good at judging age,but i would say the father in the drama would be a young person in the seventies.here we have someone who has a family business,acquired wealth and has enough money so his son doesn't have to work.that was 1970..on wards.here we have a family business 35 years later and the end is not here.today the faithful slave discourages materialism,obvously the father did not listen.good for him,but he missed the point.did not this father say to his son to pioneer because the end was so near.again,why did the father not pioneer,instead of starting a business and making money.. the father should encourage his son to start a business today.and in 35 years the son can encourage his son.. bob.

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  2009 DC Drama Critic

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did not the father take to heart the counsel and wisdom of the faithful slave (gb)?what kind of example did he set for his sons?.

  circa 1970:the counsel of the faithful slave to teenagers was to go pioneering.they would not complete high school because the end was so near.they would not get married in this system let alone have children.i'am not good at judging age,but i would say the father in the drama would be a young person in the seventies.here we have someone who has a family business,acquired wealth and has enough money so his son doesn't have to work.that was 1970..on wards.here we have a family business 35 years later and the end is not here.today the faithful slave discourages materialism,obvously the father did not listen.good for him,but he missed the point.did not this father say to his son to pioneer because the end was so near.again,why did the father not pioneer,instead of starting a business and making money.. the father should encourage his son to start a business today.and in 35 years the son can encourage his son.. bob.

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  Why did not the father take to heart the counsel and wisdom of the Faithful slave (GB)?What kind of example did he set for his sons?

  circa 1970:The counsel of the Faithful slave to teenagers was to go pioneering.They would not complete high school because the end was so near.They would not get married in this system let alone have children.I'am not good at judging age,but I would say the father in the drama would be a young person in the seventies.Here we have someone who has a family business,acquired wealth and has enough money so his son doesn't have to work.That was 1970..on wards.Here we have a family business 35 years later and the end is not here.Today the faithful slave discourages materialism,obvously the father did not listen.Good for him,but he missed the point.Did not this father say to his son to pioneer because the end was so near.Again,why did the father not pioneer,instead of starting a business and making money.

  The Father should encourage his son to start a business today.And in 35 years the son can encourage his son.

  Bob
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  Awake August 2009

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some excerpts:"treated like a nobody".

  "when officially sanctioned (disfellowsipped by wbts) discrimination can lead to such evils as ethnic cleansing(kicked out of the congregation).. "bigotry and intolerance (don't talk or help a disfellowshipped person, fired him from an elders construction company) where there are laws against discrimination".. the right education can (on this forum) expose the root cause of prejdice (disfellowshipping) and help us deal wisely with prejudice when we are victims".. 'prejudice may be sown by those( you can add those here) who deliberately promote warped views of other cultures (religion such as the roman catholic church)".. we should choose our associates wisely(if we associate with workmates or other religions we will be discriminated>disfellowshipped<).. don't get me started on p22 clergy-laity.. by the way i just read "blues brother wt 15/10/09-re d/f'd friends.now i am really pissed-off.. bob.

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  Some excerpts:"Treated Like a Nobody"

  "When officially sanctioned (disfellowsipped by WBTS) discrimination can lead to such evils as ethnic cleansing(kicked out of the congregation).

  "Bigotry and intolerance (don't talk or help a disfellowshipped person, fired him from an elders construction company) where there are laws against discrimination".

  The right education can (ON THIS FORUM) expose the root cause of prejdice (disfellowshipping) and help us deal wisely with prejudice when we are victims".

  'Prejudice may be sown by those( you can add those here) who deliberately promote warped views of other cultures (religion such as the Roman Catholic church)".

  We should choose our associates wisely(if we associate with workmates or other religions WE WILL BE DISCRIMINATED>disfellowshipped<).

  Don't get me started on P22 Clergy-Laity.

  By the way I just read "Blues Brother Wt 15/10/09-RE D/F'D friends.Now I am really PISSED-OFF.

  Bob
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  THE REAL BLONDIE'S COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 07-26-09 WT STUDY (ANGELS)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  10:5, 11, 14; acts 7:53; rev.

  (matthew 18:10) see to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for i tell you that their angels in heaven always behold the face of my father who is in heaven.. *** w76 8/15 p. 494 par.

  not by angels but by a fellow christian.. quote.

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  Do the bobbing heads really know what the GB is feeding them?EX.P15.they believe the angels learn from the GB(God's ORG.)Unbelieviable. P16.The anointed sisters on Earth are shit yet these very ones will rule in heaven.P12 We would not expect angels to rescue or protect us if we were to engage in reckless behavior......not taking unnecessary risks.So why do you take risks and preach where you are told not to,ie China,Russia

  Bob
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  Neutrality- the wbts

  by bobld in

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  i would like the preface my statement:there is a religion that is totally neutral in wars,neutral in gov't, neutral in the judiciary,however that religion is not the j.w./wbts.the reason is the wbts uses the court system to fight it's battles.as an example a court case in canada about blood.they lost the case so now they must obey satan's system/gov't.they cannot now say we must obey god rather than man because they put their faith in satan's system hoping for victory which came not.another case in france,they did not want to pay what the gov't asked,so they used satan's system and lost.why put faith in satan system hoping you can get a short repreeve.how can they say they are neutral when they use satan's system.another example would be flag saluting,take it to court and lose,so now you have to salute(took god out of the picture).. how many ot examples are there that the nation of israel went to the pagan's court.why did not jesus call for angelic help when he was before the court(sanhedrin).yes the j.w./wbts have a very narrow view of neutrality.it is not only war,it is gov't,it is the judiciary as a battle ground as well.. bob.

  ps:the court system has changed over the years: look at how liberal it is today,same sex marriages,gay rights,etc, so is the wbts putting faith in the court system.it will sting them in the behind..

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  I agree with you Reniaa.Case in point J.W. should not take the Blood doctrine to court.

  Bob
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  Neutrality- the wbts

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like the preface my statement:there is a religion that is totally neutral in wars,neutral in gov't, neutral in the judiciary,however that religion is not the j.w./wbts.the reason is the wbts uses the court system to fight it's battles.as an example a court case in canada about blood.they lost the case so now they must obey satan's system/gov't.they cannot now say we must obey god rather than man because they put their faith in satan's system hoping for victory which came not.another case in france,they did not want to pay what the gov't asked,so they used satan's system and lost.why put faith in satan system hoping you can get a short repreeve.how can they say they are neutral when they use satan's system.another example would be flag saluting,take it to court and lose,so now you have to salute(took god out of the picture).. how many ot examples are there that the nation of israel went to the pagan's court.why did not jesus call for angelic help when he was before the court(sanhedrin).yes the j.w./wbts have a very narrow view of neutrality.it is not only war,it is gov't,it is the judiciary as a battle ground as well.. bob.

  ps:the court system has changed over the years: look at how liberal it is today,same sex marriages,gay rights,etc, so is the wbts putting faith in the court system.it will sting them in the behind..

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  Lets take the money out of the equation(France).The GB\WBTS wins the court case of discrimination against J.W.(Jehovah answers the prayers of the GB/J.W. Gov't can't tax J.W. in France.

  Let me illustrate( long story)

  Exemplary J.W. family (Vancouver,Canada),father is a long time elder,mother is a pioneer.Their son whom I will call (AB) is 25 years old,very intelligent,started pioneering after high school.Has many privileges,been used in many demonstrations,including in dramas at D.C.

  Another exemplary J.W.family(Toronto,Canada).Same attributes as the family above,only their son whom I will call (DC) is 28 years old.Both AB & DC are now at Canada branch Bethel.

  The GB/WBTS often refer to these two as model families.Now watch this

  Brother AB & DC come out of the closet as it were and are seen in the Gay Pride Parade in Toronto,Canada which is broadcast live and announce that they are getting married.They want to get married in the Bethel assembly hall and want Bro elder to marry them.

  Q1 Will the GB/WBTS disfellowship Bro AB,DC?

  Q2 Will the GB/J.W. allow them to use the bethel assembly hall?

  Q3 Will Bro elder be allowed to marry AC<DC?

  You see, if the GB/WBTS want the court in France decide not to discriminate against J.W. that is good.Now in Canada the Supreme court has ruled that you cannot discriminate against same sex marriage or sexual-orienation.

  Now answer the three questions. I rest my case.

  The above is a hypothetical example

  Bob
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  Neutrality- the wbts

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i would like the preface my statement:there is a religion that is totally neutral in wars,neutral in gov't, neutral in the judiciary,however that religion is not the j.w./wbts.the reason is the wbts uses the court system to fight it's battles.as an example a court case in canada about blood.they lost the case so now they must obey satan's system/gov't.they cannot now say we must obey god rather than man because they put their faith in satan's system hoping for victory which came not.another case in france,they did not want to pay what the gov't asked,so they used satan's system and lost.why put faith in satan system hoping you can get a short repreeve.how can they say they are neutral when they use satan's system.another example would be flag saluting,take it to court and lose,so now you have to salute(took god out of the picture).. how many ot examples are there that the nation of israel went to the pagan's court.why did not jesus call for angelic help when he was before the court(sanhedrin).yes the j.w./wbts have a very narrow view of neutrality.it is not only war,it is gov't,it is the judiciary as a battle ground as well.. bob.

  ps:the court system has changed over the years: look at how liberal it is today,same sex marriages,gay rights,etc, so is the wbts putting faith in the court system.it will sting them in the behind..

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  I would like the preface my statement:There is a religion that is totally neutral in wars,neutral in Gov't, neutral in the Judiciary,however that religion is not the j.w./wbts.The reason is the wbts uses the court system to fight it's battles.As an example a court case in Canada about blood.They lost the case so now they must obey Satan's system/Gov't.They cannot now say we must obey God rather than man because they put their faith in Satan's system hoping for victory which came not.Another case in France,they did not want to pay what the Gov't asked,so they used Satan's system and lost.Why put faith in Satan system hoping you can get a short repreeve.How can they say they are neutral when they use Satan's system.Another example would be flag saluting,take it to court and lose,so now you have to salute(took God out of the picture).

  How many OT examples are there that the nation of Israel went to the pagan's court.Why did not Jesus call for angelic help when he was before the court(Sanhedrin).Yes the j.w./wbts have a very narrow view of NEUTRALITY.It is not only war,it is gov't,it is the JUDICIARY as a battle ground as well.

  Bob

  PS:The court system has changed over the years: Look at how liberal it is today,same sex marriages,gay rights,etc, so is the wbts putting faith in the court system.It will sting them in the behind.
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  What did you dream about doing in the "New System"?

  by lurk3r in

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  2. beliefs

  life in the new system, did you give it much thought?

  sure, we would be brought to perfection, and there would be a resurrection, but how about other things?.

  in my years growing up and living as a jw, i never really thought about it that much.

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  I never did or do because I enjoy my life.Only those JW's that have a hard time,always say "I can't wait for the new system."Why do they always say that?Many who have waiting for better things"new system"are gone.When I'am gone,that is it,I do not want to come to life thousands of years from now.This life is good.

  Bob
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  Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!

  a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.

  prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.

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  I really enjoy this topic because of the experiences of ex bethelites.As an example a brother was let go after 50 years in bethel.Now he is broke has 0ne used suit,is homeless no where to live.The GB is now looking for replacements.I say great let another sucker work for 50 years and get kicked out because he is no longer useful to the mother CORP.Isn;t it great for all the blind suckers,let them slave away for someone else for nothing.I love it the way they are treated.

  Only one thing that I don't agree.They GB want charity status and we(GOV'T) have to look after these old people.After their productive are done and they made no contributions to 401k,no income tax for the gov't to fund the homeless,needy people which they are now.

  Bob
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  Watchtower society cutting LOTS of corners to save money!!! $$$$$ List?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  calanders cut to half their size...makes it hard to write your time in!

  soft cover books replace hard covers, more wear and tear but less cost.

  making a seperate watchtower for study saving on printing.

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  They introduced another way of making money.The TOAA( traveling overseer assist arrangement )for C.O. expenses travelling and dental.This is an absolute requirement that all cocgreation must pay,even if the publishers can't.

  Bob

  PS:All congregation already pay pay for his expanses.I don't know why they have to pay TOAA.