"hey! long time no see! sorry i havn't been around for a while, it's just that, crisis of concience is a long book, and with my A.D.D. it took me a while to get through. while reading that book, i was researching the lies behind the year 1914, 607, etc..., and finding ways to break free from the WBTS mind control tecniques. i've learned so much in the past few months about conditional friendships vs. true friendships, and have been seriously enjoying sleeping in on saturday mornings. anyways, i realized this morning that something was missing from my life, something i couldn't find anywhere else, even after all my searching, and that's when i realized i needed to come back to the kingdom hall. i left my SCARF here, have you seen it?"
Posts by SB
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60Post a message to your congregation right here
by JH inpost here, what you would love to say in front of all the congregation.
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WTS Video about alternative civilian service
by BluesBrother inin my young day , it was recognized that you could not do alternatives to military service .
i knew older 'bro's" from the war years who had refused such service .
they joked that they had said in effect to the authorities "of course we want to work on the land, but not if you tell us to do it".
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when i lived in an eastern european country, all of the young brothers opted to go to school instead of join the military. i'm not exactly sure how the program worked, but that was their way around the military - to go to college!
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Company Xmas Party
by stillajwexelder inwell i attended the company xmas party this last weekend and it was damn good, loads of fun and good people.
if jws find out and i get disfellowshipped, tough shit.
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my company xmas party was last night. free food, won some bottles of booze. lovely. :)
MERRY XMAS!
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child getting baptized
by Cindyrenee innine year old grandson studying to be babtized.
any thoughts on this??
i think it is insane.
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a 9 yr old isn't even old enough to commit most of the "transgressions" that witnesses get in trouble for, they are baptizing innocent, un-testable children! how would they treat a 9 year old who got in trouble at school for playing "adult" with another 9 year old? would they disfellowship a nine year old? would you SHUN a 9 year old?!?! what if a 9 year old had a part in a xmas play, would you sit him down in front of three elders and scold him?!?! if someone can't drive themselves to a judicial committee themselves, they shouldn't be allowed to get baptized.
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Convince me to move to your State (U.S. Only)
by liquidsky inmy husband and i are throwing around the idea of moving to a different state.
nothing is set in stone yet, but some changes in his career may allow for us to move wherever we like in the u.s. i love washington state, but i would like to move somewhere a little warmer.
i've lived in washington all my life and i need a little help in learning about the rest of the u.s.. so convince me to move to your state.
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warmer? i've got nothing to offer, sorry.
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What emotions were you feeling as you started reading the posts on JWD?
by What-A-Coincidence inmy reaction: shock and awe (tm).
i was an elder and had just left bethel.
i didn't want to believe what i was reading especially from current and former elders.
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i was so angry, and really upset the whole week at work, everyone wondered why. i felt stupid, hurt, some more stupid, then some more hurt. but this board has been the single most effective outside source in me coming to terms that my thoughts and beliefs CAN'T be controlled anymore, even if i wanted that "security" and warm fuzzy feeling of being a "pillar" in the congregation. it's an impossibility now, and i realize that many many many people around the world have gone through the exact same thing, so i can too.
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How long did your JW "Honeymoon" last?
by JH ini got baptized in 1987, and i was a happy jw until 1991, so my honeymoon with the jw's lasted about 4 years.. how about you?.
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the first less than enjoyable experience was the period after I gave up pineering in 1990, when the elders and circuit overseer were pressuribg me to sign up again
i remember this was true for me too. the first time i was really disgusted with the whole org set up was when i stopped pioneering after pioneering abroad, and the C.O. came up to me, shook my hand with glee and a big smile, and said, "Hey! so, how's your pioneering going now that you're back?" And i said, "well, actually, i've felt really drained, so i stopped pioneering". my thoughts were, maybe he will ask if there is anything "the friends" could do to help me get started again (because in all honesty i really missed long days of coffee breaks, i mean field service.). instead he said, "well, let me know if you start again, your experience in the ministry would be nice to use in a convention". so, i was "unusable" because i wasn't out in service to the WT full time anymore. i was partly relieved, because having had parts on assembly's before, i had no desire to be in front of 4,000 people bragging about "my ministry" again, but at the same time i felt very dejected like all my efforts for the society were worthless unless i kept up the status.
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My story, concluded.
by Paralipomenon inwell it's been a while since i wrote the first two parts and this isn't so much a conclusion to the story because it hasn't ended.
it did not go good.
the kids have worldly friends .
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your story really reminds me of, well, me when i was a child. :) I never went to meetings, my dad was "wordly", my mom never baptized but to this day clings to the faith half heartedly (luke warm, ha). i celebrated holidays, but not in school, and the flag salute and national anthem were out of the question. in my mind, b/c of my parents teaching, i was a "true christian". later, i "made the truth my own" at the ripe age of 14, but all throughout being a young child, i felt so different from the kids in school, but at the same time different from the other wittness kids. it's horrible to be so torn, it caused a lot of social problems for me.
maybe you could reason w/your wife, and instead of argue, tell her you DO respect HER beleifs, and part of her beliefs are respecting the head of the household. remind her that you would never do anything to harm your own children, and as the head of your household you will permit HER to go to meetings, but not your children. also, tell her that the children really aren't any religion, because technically they are being raised in a religiously divided household. therefore, it is disrespectful to YOU, for her to announce to their school that they are JW's and can't participate in holiday's at school. chances are, like i was, your kids are confused why some things fly at home, but not at school. it's really setting them up for living w/double standards. it's not teaching them to be genuine people. also, getting a divorce would lessen the chances of your children ever becoming JW's. "religion tore my parents apart" is how their story would go. if your wife wants to worship Jehovah, that is her right as an adult. but as the head of your family, it is okay to say no to the kids being indoctrinated. when they are older, they will know their mother as a kind, religious woman, and maybe they will be inclined to ask questions, and yes, maybe one day they will want to go to the KH as well, but it should be when they are old enough to decide for themselves this is a free country, and we can't stop grown adults from believing what they (we) want to believe, but you have the right (and in her line of reasoning, the SCRIPTURAL right, to put limitations on your family's religious activity. out of respect for your wife though, i would suggest only applying this to the children, not to her, as it sounds like you respect her mind. she wants to raise your children the way she thinks is best for them, but according to the religion she wants to be a part of, this is not her decision in the end, it is yours.
these are my thoughts on the matter. oh, coincidentally, my mother left my father b/c he wouldn't honor her religious beliefs and get married. so, as a result of an argument similar to what you are havng, i grew up in a single parent household. that is way worse than being raised by two people who have religious differences, in my opinion.
i hope it all works out for you and your family.
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SAD NEWS. MY FATHER HAS DIED
by badboy inonly about 15 minutes ago, i learned that my father died up the hospital this morning.
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((Scully))
im so sorry, what an awful loss. let us know how you're doing soon. life is so hard sometimes.
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What if....?
by coolhandluke inas always when talking to my brother i come to a higher state of awareness.
at eight years my senior, he challenges and prods me.
i need that from time to time to keep me honest.
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I think as a former JW, we are taught to put conditions on accepting people's choices. while it is sad that your mother, as so many JW's, would give up a child in the name of their religion, the fact that you love your mother so much that you see it would be mentally devastating if she were to realize the untruths about the truth, shows that you have not lost that inborn love a child has for their mother. so, i don't know if it's right or wrong to let her continue in bliss, but it's sweet that you don't want her to go through the pain of realizing the hypocricy of her faith like you had to. isn't that truly, "loving your neighbor as yourself"?. that's my take on it anyways. :)