Posts by truthsearcher

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My situation might not be all that bad after all.

by R.F. in

as many of you know, i've mentally left the organization but i'm still actively involved, even with positions of responsibility.

i wanted to do a successful quiet fade out of the org but at the same time i don't want any involvement with it.

i would love to send a da letter right now but some things had been holding me back.

truthsearcher

Hey RF: I suspect that the more you mentally and spiritually break away from the org, the less palatable a fade will be...you know that feeling of relief you had when you and your fiancee parted ways? I can only imagine that it would be 10000% more when you leave the WT. The more you study the Bible without their blinders on your eyes, I suspect the less you will be able to stomach the wrong doctrines.

But, you may get the desire to help some of the JWs out of the org...if so, you might need to lay low for a while.

You certainly have a good reason for being overwhelmed and not "ready to attend meetings again" though with all the personal stuff going on in your life lately...

What about having lunch or something with your aunt and sending out some feelers. Maybe she has been praying for your family for years, and this would be the highlight of her year!

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If Creationism is true explain races.

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

so the bible speaks of how multiple languages came to be in babylon with the tower of babel, you all know the story.

ok so thats the bibles view on languages but what about races?

how are some people light skin others dark?

truthsearcher

Referring back to the original question: If we were all created with the genes to produce the different features that we see in all the races, then it wouldn't take much time at all to produce offspring that showed the dominant features. For example, there have been cases of "black and white" twins born to parents.

Twins in Black and White
The birth of twins with different skin colours in Britain in August 1994 has been claimed to be a more common occurrence in New Zealand.
A couple in Tauranga (New Zealand) reminded people that they have seven-year-old twin daughters—one light and one dark—and in Dunedin 12-year-old twins Michael and Alastair Fraser are known as the 'black and white' twins because Michael looks European while Alastair has Maori features.
The Tauranga twins, Melissa and Marianna Waamu, have become less alike as they have grown older. Melissa is taller, with dark brown eyes and black curly hair. Marianna took on the light European tonings of her mother, with straight red hair.
Doctors in Britain said the chances of producing such black and white twins were a million to one. The Dominion (Wellington, NZ), August 31, 1994 (p. 8).
An entire range of skin colour, from very white to very black, can occur in just one generation with the right parents. This is a strong argument against the idea that the races have been evolving separately over a long time and have needed to do so to produce national characteristics seen today.

--from http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/focus.asp

This week, Australia’s Courier-Mail reports on “black and white” twin sisters, born in May near Brisbane. One of the girls has dark brown skin and hair, while the other has very light skin and blonde hair. Because of the stark difference in skin and hair color, most would never think of the two as siblings. The twins’ mother is of Jamaican-English heritage, and the father is from Germany. The article also points out that light/dark twins were born last year in Britain as well (it is unclear if a similar story from the AP, released yesterday, refers to the same British twins), though neither represents the first time this has happened.
What does this interesting rarity have to do with the Bible? Sadly, racism has plagued humankind since just after the Tower of Babel. For the same reason that people ostracize those with other so-called abnormalities, human societies have often relegated minorities to second-class individuals, even considering them less than human. The theory of evolution did much to increase this bigotry.
The Bible clearly teaches that we are all of one blood, having all descended from Adam and Eve. Understanding this gives humans a basis for dismantling racism, as does recognizing that “racial” differences represent only 0.012% of the human genome, whereas other types of differences (e.g., height) account for 0.2%. Stories of “mixed twins” remind us of our universal heritage.

--from http://www.answersingenesis.org/news-to-note/1028.asp

I would like to add the following article for your consideration.

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Mouthy's 80th Birthday ---- Thanks to all

by gusgus1 in

great big thanks to all who participated in my mother's 80th birthday.... it was great, and she was trhilled..... she had a smile on her face the whole day long.... so many showed up to celebrate, and those that couldn't shared by phone calls, cards, flowers and gifts.

the memory album i put together for her turned out great, so thanks to so many who sent me a page to put in, it's a memory she'll have forever.... all her children and grandchildren were there, except for the ones in montreal who are still jw's.. .

thank-you to all, a million times.

truthsearcher

Susan: It was a terrific party! My biggest memory will be of your mom trying to introduce everyone to everyone else, and then the door would open and she would say "I DON"T BELIEVE IT!" (or some other such comment) as new friends came through the door! It happened several times while I was there! So you know that she must have been having a great time.

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Commenting at Meetings: A Way Of Expressing Your Faith???

by R.F. in

as we are told by the wt, commenting at the meetings is supposed to be a way of expressing your faith in the congregation.

i hardly felt this today during the wt study today or every meeting for that matter.

it seems more like this is the time when everyone wants to correct others or direct their comments in a way that it's condemnatory to others.

truthsearcher

I thought it was quite revealing when the sisters told me about so and so, the new convert, who made comments at the meetings stating what he actually thought, rather than what the material said, because "he didn't know any better, and was still learning".

I guess it is the same as in our book study when we read a paragraph and then there is the question at the bottom of the page, and the answer is so obvious that I just look strangely at the conductor, and say "well, OBVIOUSLY, the answer from the book would be..." Then I make sure that I instigate a REAL discussion of the points being made. We don't usually make it through very many paragraphs at a time...Can you imagine me at a meeting? They would throw me out!

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Mouthy's Birthday Party

by truthsearcher in

hey guys, i went to the party this afternoon, and mouthy wanted me to post about it and let you know that she is really busy with company right now, but will post again sometime soon.. anyway, mouthy's party was lots of fun--almost everyone there were ex-jws.

i really enjoyed meeting them and talking about their experiences.

they all had their eyes opened in different ways--for some it was a gradual awakening, for others it was a sudden unexpected scripture verse and bingo, the blinders were off!

truthsearcher

Hey guys, I went to the party this afternoon, and Mouthy wanted me to post about it and let you know that she is really busy with company right now, but will post again sometime soon.

Anyway, Mouthy's party was lots of fun--almost everyone there were ex-JWs. I really enjoyed meeting them and talking about their experiences. They all had their eyes opened in different ways--for some it was a gradual awakening, for others it was a sudden unexpected scripture verse and bingo, the blinders were off! One lady said for some reason she kept praying to Jehovah not to be brain-washed, and as a result she could never understand the WT articles. Another lady couldn't understand the NWT and so she acquired many other versions that she would read to help her understand. The elders were shocked by her pile of Bibles and commentaries when they found out.

Mouthy was surrounded by love and best wishes and yes there was cake! We all sang and gave presents. Some posters on JWD had sent flowers. It was a lovely time. Almost as much fun as those apostafests look!

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If women were on the Governing Body......

by mtsgrad in

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friends

there would be far more judical committee as women are more observant.. .

complete the following:.

if women were on the governing body.......... mtsgrad.

truthsearcher

Well seriously though, if it was just one or two women, don't you think that they would feel they had to "earn" their spot on the GB and might just end up being a lot harsher than the men? I have seen that kind of reaction before--women going overboard to prove themselves.

What do you think about that?

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I've been asked to give a public talk (should I)

by darth frosty in

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friends

a friend of mine who is planing his fade, has just been made talk coordinator.

so he calls me and ask 'do i want to give a talk at his hall?

' he knows my situation and lurks on this board himself.

truthsearcher

There is a great story I heard about a guy who gave a talk that was on the edge.

He got up there with Russells and Rutherfords books. He started the talk something to the effect of...

You people are false prophets. You said the end would come in 1914, 1918, 1925 and it never did. I have the books that show you have false prophesied.

Then a pause.

He then went on to say 'Now imagine somebody told that to you at the door, how would you respond?'

The rest of the talk went pretty low key with just some hinting at the truth of the matter. Right at that pause he described the looks on the Elders faces not knowing what was going on. Sounded like a moment to remember.

This story I heard on MM Outreach audio clips by the person who actually did the deed. I thought it was brilliant! Anyone remember who it was?

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So I finally broke the ice with my fiancee....

by R.F. in

for those of you that don't know, i've recently had many doubts about the org and realized that i can't just let them go.

the thing was however, that i was nervous as to how my fiancee would react when i would make my doubts known to her.

so.....i finally talked to her today and it went a little something like this.......... i started with us reading together acts.

truthsearcher

I wasn't even sure what I was going to say to her. Actually, I didn't even plan on saying anything to her today but something told me to do it today and it seemed to come out easily.

R.F., despite what others have posted, to me this seems exactly like what Holy Spirit does to help us! I don't know if you have abandoned faith in God and the Bible, (and I hope not) because it sounds like you are well on your way to having a relationship not a religion. I wish you the best in your talks with your love, that you would continue to be given the right words, and that you will continue to grow in your knowledge of what the Bible "really" teaches.

Marcel: that sounds like a really, really tough situation! It seems that your girl is not ready to hear anything negative about the org. How patient are you, can you wait for her to be ready, or do you think you might have to make a choice? This cult sure messes up people's lives (as if love relationships weren't tricky enough already)!

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Life's Short. Get A Divorce

by minimus in

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friends

that's the sign that was put up by divorce lawyer corri fetman in chicago.

do you agree with that sentiment?

since life's so short, and you're not happy with your mate, just get a divorce?.

truthsearcher

Like most advertising it is specifically targeted at an audience and this one appears to be targeted at people who are shallow and do not value relationships to any specific degree;

It appears to be targeted at those who are willing to dump what they have and move on to something "Bigger and Better"...as if the most important thing in a relationship is physical endowment. They don't even show the model's faces--it is a symptom of our sex-obsessed society. And a sad message for young people to see and read. They are the ones that are being bombarded with the media's messages that marriage is a disposable institution.

(But I was wondering if that was abr up there, making some extra money on the side?)

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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs

by greendawn in

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friends

after you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.

after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.

soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.

truthsearcher

Hi Ty: How are you doing lately? I haven't seen you posting much and was worried about you...Glad to see you back and fired up!