ice and snow flurries most of the way there, and bitterly cold ... but we are thrilled.. a bad day today thanks to my father.
thanks, dad!
your prayer didn't work.
Okay, all I can say as a Canadian chocoholic (yes, I am praying for release from this addiction)\
85 cent GIANT HERSHEY CHOCOLATE BARS at the Hershey Factory Outlet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Need I say more???
TS
P.S. If you PM me, I'll give you my MAILING address
hi there everyone, i am the girl who had been writting under "messy" but i decided to change my name to sister golden hair surprise to reflect my personality in a more positive way since messy jessy was my nickname as a child and i am now a woman, and not so messy.
my last post as messy is under the experiences/reunions etc.
and it is a letter i wrote to the papers but isnt being published.
Hey SGHS: love the new name for a new life! Check your PM, I replied to your last one :)
i have been following the story on the duggar family ever since i saw it when they were having their 15th child.
we get it on pay tv here.
anyone else as interested as i am?.
The wife was given a cervical cap, but as she said, sometimes she just didn't get it in, in time.I remember her tearfully 'joking' that she was going to get bunk beds and if he tried to climb up to her she was going to kick him down!!
Hmmm, I have never heard of the "bunkbed method of family planning"! Sounds like it could be effective in certain circumstances!
i have been following the story on the duggar family ever since i saw it when they were having their 15th child.
we get it on pay tv here.
anyone else as interested as i am?.
There have been some pretty harsh words here towards the idea of having a large family! Don't forget that it is only in this last century that women have had the luxury of limiting their offspring. So for most of human history, many children flocked around the average family hearth. The type of mothering practices that were adopted (specifically breastfeeding every couple of hours, and through the night, with no use of a pacifier or supplemental bottles) had a natural effect on feritility to suppress ovulation for over a year, typically. Cultures that have continued this pattern until more recently tended to have babies every 21/2 to 3 years. I have always thought of this as God's way of protecting the new baby and also giving the mother a bit of a rest between births. Of course, there was also the extended family and community close by to give additional help and support.
I suspect that this family in question are part of the "Quiverfull"movement. This is based on the verse in proverbs about having a quiverfull of children, and also the command to be fruitful and multiply in Genesis. Quiverfulls are a loosely organized Protestant subculture that rejects family planning in all its forms. Even the rhythm method is considered too interventionist. Children are considered a blessing from God, and so they welcome as many babies as God sends them (aka "open womb" policy).
"Our bodies are meant to be a living sacrifice," write the Hesses. Or, as Mary Pride, in another of the movement's founding texts, The Way Home: Beyond Feminism, Back to Reality, puts it, "My body is not my own." This rebuttal of the feminist health text Our Bodies, Ourselves is deliberate. Quiverfull women are more than mothers. They're domestic warriors in the battle against what they see as forty years of destruction wrought by women's liberation... Instead of picketing clinics, Pride writes, Christians should fight abortion by demonstrating that children are an "unqualified blessing" by having as many as God gives them. Only a determination among Christian women to take up their submissive, motherly roles with a "military air" and become "maternal missionaries" will lead the Christian army to victory.
Some Quiverfulls have their sterilizations reversed. Blessed Arrows a sterilization reversal ministry pools the money of the faithful to fund reversals for those who can't afford the procedures--so that the "beneficiaries" can have as many children as the Ultimate Birth Controller sees fit.
Pride's book The Way Home made its way around my circle of friends about 11 years ago...we all decided to add one more to the quiver! One friend had 7 children,but her doctor told her that her life was at risk for another pregnancy, and she had to have some major bladder/uterine repair work done. They realized that despite their "open womb" leanings, they should be wise and stop.
I am not comfortable judging others for their choices in this matter. The large families that I know are close and well-cared for. The mothers do see these children as blessings and put alot of effort into nurturing them. If this is the path they chose, then the beauty of living in a democratic nation is that they are free to follow it. I prefer that over the limited family size and forced abortions that take place in some countries (China for an example)
It is a bit of a change from the number of JWs I have met who have NO children--why bring children into this world, when the system is about to end??? That makes me sad to think that they will miss out on the joy of parenting as a result of waiting for that fairytale. But again, it is their choice and I will not judge them.
this is a 5 page microsoft word document.
when you print this sucker off it will actually print properly with no edges cut off -sheesh!!!.
enjoy.
Thank you so much for posting this! It is going to be shown to as many JWs as I can manage!
a fledging relationship goes up in smoke.
it was 1973 and the wt was in full cult mode.
they wanted to purify the organization in preparation for the coming "great day of jehovah.
TSOF:
That is a very sad story that makes me want to weep! My father is so precious to me and I thank God for his strong and stable influence on me over the years. I hope you will have many chances to pursue with Dad those things that bond you together, like your mutual loves. It must be neat to realize that despite the past, you are still your father's son. Will he talk about the past with you? Can you explore together what you have BOTH missed out on by his DFing for smoking, and the borgs lack of practical help?
anyone who smoked cigarettes or had any major involvement with the tobacco industry, whether farming, manufacture or retail had six months to abandon it or else be disfellowshipped.
Don't they now own stock in the tobacco industry? Maybe the GB should be DFed for their sinful behaviour...
i am looking for a new belief.
i was going through a divorce my hall treated me like doo doo.
i was broke and a nervous breakdown, and they shunned me.
Oh, by the way, I did visit a local Bible church, definately more at ease. It made me feel better a little while, But I will be looking more inside of myself for faith?
You have the right idea! The Bible teaches us about a relationship with Jehovah through Jesus Christ, not about a religion. It is a deeply personal faith, but thrives among others who share a true commitment to the Bible and not to cultic man-made rules. I wish you success in finding a new community who will love you, regardless of the past. That is Jesus' unconditional love in action! I have experienced it and it is a beautiful thing.
hello true believers.
had jc meeting.
will be reinstated next meeting.
Caine: I am doing all of the above, but I am not a member of the WT cult. You can serve Jehovah and his kingdom too without being locked in a man-made religion that perverts the truth. Please think about this carefully. One day you will stand before the Judge and you will need to answer for your decisions--Jehovah told his people NOT to settle for their corrupt organization in the Hebrew Scriptures. Why should it be any different now?
i was discussing with my husband how im happy to eat meat as long as its not game (venison, partridge etc) because i cant get the "no blood" out of my belief system yet and i know that game isn't bled.
he asked me - how do you think farm animals are killed today?
my answer - a metal bolt shot through the skull into the brain causing instant death - i understand from seeing programs that this is the practice in the uk anyhow, and we try to buy british - it helps the local economy more.. so how is the meat bled asks my husband?
I have been wondering about how long the ancients were able to bleed meat, given the hot Mediterranean climate, spoilage, etc. Would they not have had to eat it shortly after butchering? Otherwise there would have been a problem with flies, bacterial growth, etc. We can hang meat nowadays for longer because it is under refridgerated conditions. Any one know about this?
please don't leave.
we do care about you and want to offer our support of you and your family in what must be very difficult circumstances.. the reason i called for assistance from a forum moderator was because i was afraid my alligator mouth would overload my hippopotamus behind where you were concerned.
it does that sometimes.. frannie.
By the way, just in case you were all thinking I was a tad schizophrenic, my hubby also uses this id to post his comments. That's why my comments sometimes are contradicting, as auldsoul saw regarding his post. We don't always see 'eye to eye' either. Makes things interesting
OH, NOW I UNDERSTAND!!
I was wondering if you had forgotten to take some medication or something.....
