he just can't seem to stop himself taunting "these muslims" or "some muslim or other".
among his favourite taunts are:.
"all the world's muslims have fewer nobel prizes than trinity college, cambridge.".
My biggest issue with Islam is that it is a political entity masquerading as a religion.
Studying the Koran and Hadiths a common theme is the goal of Islam is to install Sharia Law in all nations to the glory of Allah.
Any nation with Muslim led government has very few individual freedoms.
I really don't care what people believe, but keep religious beliefs out of Government, Christian or Muslim.
may 11 2013, zone visit; brother splane visits ireland.
brother splane spoke on the subject should you wear sauls garment?.
.... "bro and sis splane were once assigned to a fanatically catholic town.
Too bad the children didn't have candy, I bet he could have taken that as well!
yup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.
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thanks!!
Inform them that you are very busy but would love to meet with them. Ask to meet mid morning during the week.
Elders expect that people will accomodate their lives so meetings are set up for evenings and weekends.
Schedule something during the week and they would need to take time off their own jobs to attend. You will find the desire to encourage rapidly drain when it would cost them money.
If they do agree, all the better. When you arrive, let them know that somethign came up and that you only have 15 mins. Try to stall with small talk, then after 15 mins look at your watch, thank them for taking the time to meet with you and state that you really need to get back to work.
You haven't shown your hand at all, and limited the encounter to something distasteful to them without being rude.
if you threaten the commmitee with a lawsuit, each of you.
will hear from my lawyer if you df me today.
all you have, every penny.
Traditionally courts stay out of religious affairs due to the murky implications of freedom of religion.
In cases where they do rule, they will usually rule based on the relgion's own rules and policies.
You would have more success by bringing legal representation in earlier. If they send a request for a JC, reply that you are willing to meet and that you can either meet at the office of your lawyer, or at the Kingdom Hall during business hours so your lawyer can attend to represent you.
They will not agree to it.
By their own rules, you cannot be disfellowshipped without a JC and a meeting in absentia is only allowed if you refuse to come. To my knowledge, I have not heard of them proceeding after canceling the meeting themselves.
By agreeing to attend and have them cancel it, if they go ahead with the JC, they have broken their own rules and that can serve as a basis for a legal case. Not a slam dunk, but at least it has legal merit.
You haven't threatened legal action, merely informed them of intent for legal representation. According to the elder's manual, they are required to contact Bethel Legal who will likely tell them to either drop it or proceed at their own risk.
at the thread about jaracz steve2 made the following interesting comment.
by now, ted should be finding his heavenly posting a routinized bore: 4 years and still counting.
he will have chaffed at the notion that all decisions are made by jehovah god who consults no one and who brooks no questioning or independent thinking.
My thought was always:
What happens to them after the 1000 years? (901 years remaining)
in a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
The president used the term "peace and security" in his speech.
I'm sure my mom is dancing in her house about how the end is near.
Reading the comments here about bullies with badges reminded me of a fantastic experience I had with Highway patrol
I was pulled over for not going fast enough, then given a ticket for speeding when I argued. I called to report it and he outright lied about the stop.
A bit long to put here, but if you're curious here is the post:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/138836/1/I-am-so-mad-right-now-I-am-in-a-rage
I will confess, other than hearing the initial news report, I had avoided any and all commentary on this case until yesterday.
I read up the evidence as submitted in the trial and really this should never have gone to court under a murder-2 charge. This was a politically motivated trial to quell public outrage. The first AG got it right with not prosecuting the case.
Intent, mindframe or whatever the public assumes about Zimmerman, the facts and evidence did not back it up. Read through the transcripts and mentally change the race of the players, the evidence still points to self defense.
The best witness to insinuate opening agression from Zimmerman committed purgery. The prosecution forensics was a scatterbrain. The whole aim of the trial was to go for a murder-2 charge.
If they wanted a shot at a conviction, they should have argued manslaughter from the start. As such, tossing manslaughter in at the very last second gave the jury very little to work with. The arguments were for murder and the evidence did not back up that claim. In my opinion if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white it would have never gone to court. It would be self defense and dropped. I think he could have been argued to a manslaughter charge since he was told to stay where he was by the police and forced the encounter. He comes across as arrogant and cop-wannabe, but that doesn't make this a racial killing.
If you can say one good thing about racism, it is that racism itself doesn't discriminate color. There are racists of every creed, color and culture in the world.
If you want to argue that I am incorrect in my opinion of this case, argue the evidence, not the news talking points.
I think the jury made the right call with the case that was provided to them.
for the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
Too many people just parrot the view of talking heads.
Obama is a politician and as such plays politics. You don't get to be POTUS with a halo.
On the same token, he isn't the devil. I give him points for trying right out of the gate, trying to reach across party lines and got bitten. It was a rookie move. He should have crammed through all his promisies while the Dems controlled the house.
While Bush was in power, the dems tried to block and demonize every decision he made, now out of power, the republicans are doing the same thing. That's politics.
Granted, Obama has much more charm and public appeal and to date hasn't had an attempt on his life by a pretzel. Bush seemed to accept that he was a puppet and sunk into that role quickly and handed the keys over to Cheney. Obama has pushed back a bit, but has also tried to make good on many promises.
But he wouldn't be president if he didn't break a bunch of election promises as well.
News outlets have polarized most people one way or the other. To be a moderate is to be attacked from both sides.
What the US needs is more vocal moderates speaking up for what actually matters. Praise the president for good choices and call him out on poor ones. Untill then there will remain Left and Right extremes that piss off 50% of the country.
witnesses often go on about apostates being spiteful and bitter.
when you get cut off, shunned, or threatened with shunning just for the audacity of thinking differently, it's not surprising that getting angry at the witnesses is the reaction - it's like a self fulfilling prophecy.. but also, i recently posted an email from a 'friend' on this board who told me that everyone he'd spoken to about me said i had changed, become like another person.
it didn't occur to him that the day before i told my parents i'd quit the religion just 3 weeks ago, i met him for lunch, we had a good time and he didn't know anything was up.
Sometimes I wonder how you can leave the Witnesses without learning critical thinking.
