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  Irritated with my sister in law who is trying to claim my baby girls clothes

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  irritated with my sister in law.

  ok so i'm really happy and excited about having my baby girl january 31st!

  the same week i learned my sister in law is having a baby due in october but will be having it delivered september.

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  Hortensia

  yup, LisaRose and Jgnat called it. Time to develop boundaries, learn how to pleasantly say no. Also time to look yourself in the eyes (takes a mirror to do that!) and tell yourself when you are being petty. You're confusing the overall issue of this woman's disrespect for your boundaries with the meaning in some material stuff.

  Learn to recognize and deal with manipulation.

  Save the special stuff that means a lot to you, discard the damaged/stained stuff, give her the rest. I wonder, too, why she is such an attention-grabber. Is she incredibly self-centered, or empty and continually in need of validation? People are so complex.
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  Long time reader first time poster

  by MissMyHarley in

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  trying to get out after only being in for a year or so.

  my wife and i were really taken in by these folks.

  we are both have degrees and should have known better.

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  Hortensia

  Well, kiss that dear old mother of yours for us, and get on your bikes and ride while your wife can still do it. Let the fresh air blow through your brains.
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  in limbo.

  by Captain Blithering in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yo homies.. .

  ltr ftp (long time, first time etc.).

  i don't really know where to start, but i guess you've all been here before so you'll know where i'm coming from.

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  Hortensia

  Hi Captain B,

  welcome to the forum. You said this:

  I hate my own stupid brain for 1. letting myself be conned into believing a load of hogwash and dedicating my life to a cult, and 2. letting evil twisted apostates lead me away from Jehovah's one true (albeit flawed) organisation.

  Why not analyze why you sometimes think it's Jehovah's one true religion? Jehovah doesn't exist as far as I know. If he/she/it did exist, would he/she/it choose the WTBTS to be the true religion? Those folks can't decide what the truth is, doctrinal flipflops are a joke. Really, if there was a true religion, it wouldn't be that one.

  Just a thought from an evil twisted apostate!
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  Memorial Hell

  by thecrushed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today has been one of the most aganizing days since i woke up.

  my family has been pressuring me to show up at the memorial for the past week.

  it became very intense today with my dad texting me constantly to get me to confirm and when i didn't answer he would call my wife and then she would constantly nag me to answer my dad and so on and so forth.

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  Hortensia

  I'm sorry for you folks going through this pressure every year. Don't give in to their pressure, though. It just encourages them and they try even harder to get you back in the cult.

  I hope your wife wakes up one day . . .
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  Shocking Email from a Dear Friend who is No Longer a JW

  by rubadubdub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i received this email tonight from a dear, dear friend who i believed had died.

  she was in very bad shape when i last spoke with her over a year ago.. "i'll make this short in case it is not functioning.

  besides i'm not sure whether it is alright for you to read it or not.

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  Hortensia

  Poor thing. That must have been a hellish experience. Don't reject her now that she has reached out to you. Take the risk!
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  One year anniversary on JWN & some updates (not so good news)

  by Kool Jo in

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  good day everyone....its been approximately one year since ive been on jwn, not as active as i want to, i guess i will be as time goes on.. its been an interesting year since been fully awaken about the lies behind the borg...thanks to this site, along with the many well put together blogs from cedars, marvin, jwfacts, randy & others, life has been much better for me.

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  Hortensia

  You know, you're not responsible for how your parents feel. As an adult, you're going to make choices they don't like. That's part of growing up and leaving the nest. You're on your own, you have to make the best choices you can for yourself. They have to deal with it however they choose.

  They could say, for instance, "tell me more. I know you're intelligent. What's your objection to the "truth"?" They probably won't, of course, but they do have that choice. If they choose to close their ears, sing lalalalala so they don't hear anything uncomfortable and reject you, well that's their choice, too.
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  I got my attempted memorial guilt trip just now....

  by Witness My Fury in

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  2. friends

  knock on the door and cobe and wife (my old group overseer) standing in the cold.. bollocks!

  ...i consider for about 1 second leaving them out there and just talking holding the door... but think better of it as it was cold an so invited them to step inside.. just passing thru and doing some calls he says, ... i know why he's here and after the preliminaries (how are you, we miss you etc), i preempted him and sped things right along.. "i can guess why you are here" i said, "it being memorial season and all.

  " he makes a jokey point about nothing gets past me does it.. he looks uncomfortable, then does the invite manouver and says "you are welcome to come" followed by "we'd like to see you there.".

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  Hortensia

  Hi, from one "stubborn, stiff-necked" person to another! Be grateful for stubbornness.

  That's what my mother called me all through my teen years as JW. I'm a proud stubborn person who isn't going to crumble or try to appease people like that.
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  When parents disown their teenaged or young adult children, they miss out on seeing them mature.

  by StinkyPantz2.0 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i daydream about the conversation i'd have with my jw mother now that i am in my mid-thirties.

  id love for her to get to know me.

  what would she think of her grown up daughter?:.

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  Hortensia

  I have always thought that one of the worst things JWs do is disown kids who really need them. Why disown your kid when he/she needs your help the most? How cruel, unloving that is.
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  There was a knock at the door....

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or more like a thunking sound really, which set our little dog into a fit of barking.

  i crawled out from behind the fridge where i was doing a repair on the waterline for the icemaker, so i could go see what all the commotion was about.

  i fugured it was going to be my neighbor returning my ladder but instead it was jw's handing out memorial invites.. the woman and the young man (her 20 something son) were people i had known but hadn't seen since we faded 4+ years ago.

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  Hortensia

  Don't apologize. Leave it alone. All the things you said were authentic, and they were about you and your experience. You're not responsible for her feelings. If you keep it going by calling her, you may trigger her JW defenses even more. As it is, maybe on some deep level she'll think about what you said.

  I am so sorry about the terrible ordeal your son has gone through. If I understood your post he has recovered?
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  "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout, Ph.D.

  by gmcotten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "[pshychologist] stanley milgram .

  pointed out that people who disobey destructive authority suffer psychologically, too.

  often a person who disobeys finds himself at odds with the social order, and may find it hard to shake the feeling that he has been faithless to someone or something to whom he pledged allegiance.

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  Hortensia

  It's a good book, read it a while ago. Worth reading.