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  What was your favorite Beatles song that you remember ?

  by thetrueone in

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  for myself growing up in the 60's it was mostly the beatles that drew my attention as well as many others.. as for the entire body of work by them, there might never be another four piece musical group like them.. sad to think that the younger generation today only has thug rap/hip hop trash or britney spears to listen to.. the quality of music may have diminished itself when it started to become more of a visual expression of art rather than .

  purely audio form of entertainment.. just one of my favorites out of many.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrk4ca0dlg&feature=related.

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  I was, still am a complete Beatlemaniac, grew up in the 60's and the first Beatle song I recall hearing on AM radio was I Wanna Hold Your Hand. That was it for me, I was gone, totally in luv with the 4 Lads. I could never pick a favorite song, love em all, every one. Actually I think of their music in albums not individual songs. Rubber Soul, Revolver, Abby Road and I agree with Undercover the White Album is underappreciated, love Dear Prudence I recently saw the Cirque Du Soleil show LOVE in Vegas....I will never be the same. Absolutly amazing and moving. The interpetation of the Beatles music was beyond beautiful. That said I have to take exception to the view that all the new music is lousy. There will never be another group like the Beatles. Was it Karma that they came together, who knows but they truly are the Best Ever. Yet there are many up and coming singer songwriters and groups out there making wonderful music. Alicica Keys, Black Eyed Peas, I even like Lady Ga Ga. Brad Pasley is a great guitat player and crosses over from country to rock. That is the wonder of music it's ALL GOOD I've also seen Ringo and his All Star Band a couple times. He is very generous to showcase other performers and take a backseat himself. He talks about the inspiration they give him. Thank gawd for Elvis, Michael, Mozart and of course The Beatles, rock on
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  Did any of you study the WT lesson throughly without ANY underlining?

  by asilentone in

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  just wondering.

  it makes me think whoever underlines the wt without going throughly is purely hypocritical.

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  my daughter was DF in her teens and one of the requirerments to be reinstated was that she have her WT studied and UNDERLINED. The PO would come up behind her in the back row to do a check-up. I was a pretty straight arrow Jdub at the time and even then knew it was just a control tactic. One of the many issues that got me to THINK = what's wrong with this picture?

  Also, when I did study my WT in advance I rarely underlined more than a key word or scripture and got lots flippant comments like 'I see you didn't study again' The arrogance was another issue that made me come to my senses.
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  Julia Sweeney's "Letting Go Of God"

  by changeling in

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  if you have access to "showtime", you might want to watch this monolgue of sweeney's journey from catholisism to atheism.

  i enjoyed it immensely.

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  Thank you Changeling for recommending this show. I also posted my very high recommendation here a few days ago. Julia really hits the notes on how it feels to let go of something you have believed all your life. When I first heard this momologe I had to hear if again and again so I bought it on Itunes and downloaded to my IPod.

  Thanks Nat for the Youtube hits too. I hope everybody takes a few minutes to watch these. So great to hear a few witty words on such a traumatic life changing event. Julia was Chatolic but with just a few word changes she could be talking about JW's.
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  Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?

  by DubR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hiya guys and gals.

  im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??

  it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!

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  Hear Hear, I would like to make a motion that we as XJW heretofor designate every 3rd Thurs as Pantsmas Day. Gifts are optional, pants are not. Traditions will evolve but lets start with Colored Lights and Giant Glitter. I want Sushi as the main food because that's my favorite but you can have whatever you like.

  And Billy the Ex-Bethelite will be Master of Ceremonies and wear a very tall hat under which he carries a Wiener Dog wearing pants.
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  The phrase "The Truth"

  by lepermessiah in

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  so, i am curious..... how many of you have a hard time getting that phrase out of your vocabulary?.

  i have been conscienciously trying not to use it at all, so now when i am in a conversation with a jw, its amazing how often they use that phrase.

  i look back and wonder "god, did i say that that often?

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  Throughout my childhood my mother used the term, still does. For some reason it never sounded like correct grammer. To casually throw around 'The Truth' always felt folksy and common. 'Is so and so in the Truth?' I suppose I was kind of a 'nose in the air' JW and I don't recall the WTBS using the phrase in the literature. I seem to remember we were counseled not to use it in the Ministry School. I would use Bro or Sister or just Witness or Christian. I did use it if others said it first but never to a nonJW.

  The other thing my mother drummed into me was that the FDS were just ordinary men. They are used by Jehovah but are imperfect and make mistakes. So I concluded 'who are we to say that only we know the Truth about God. Way to arrogant even for me the uppity one. So no it hasn't be difficult to stop using it.

  These days my favorite phrase is 'the truth about the Troof'
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  John Lennon~Anniversary of his death

  by purplesofa in

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  twenty-nine years since lennons murder.

  my oldest sons birthday is today, he is 30. .

  john will be remembered for his contribution to art, music and world peace.........paul mccartney.

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  He may be gone but far from forgotten. He will live forever in the music. Thank you John for the PEACE and LOVE you've brought into my life.

  Rock On
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  Letting Go of God on SHOWTIME this week

  by tinker in

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  2. bible

  if you have showtime channels everybody should watch this program, letting go of god.

  raised roman catholic, comic julia sweeney chronicles her conversion to atheism.. it will be on today at 5:30, again thur at 5:00pm.

  the show is insightful but also entertaining.

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  If you have SHOWTIME channels everybody should watch this program, Letting Go of God. Raised Roman Catholic, comic Julia Sweeney chronicles her conversion to atheism.

  It will be on today at 5:30, again Thur at 5:00pm. The show is insightful but also entertaining. I found so much of her experience corresponds to my own 'letting go of the WTBS'.

  This has been around for a long time and you may have seen it but just thought I'd shout out my own recomendation.
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  A CO's diagnosis and counsel

  by ldrnomo in

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  some time back when i was an elder and expressed my concerns about the blood doctrine to another elder (in confidence) the news got back to the whole body of elders and the co who i will just call (bro.

  smith) .

  after speaking to me for some time and determining that i did not believe in the wt blood doctrine.

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  Yes according to the WTBS if you use your thinking abilities at all, you are a very ill person. The 'spiritually sick' label is slapped on you and from then on you are contagous and treated as such.

  I say thank goodness you got 'sick' of those arrogant supremacist and went looking for a cure = freedom the think

  Hello to you and Mrs LD from Eastern Wa.
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  beer

  by John Doe in

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  i never really liked beer, but, i got a hankering for one on the way home from work.

  i picked up a six pack of foster's (never tried it before) and i must say, it's prettty danged good.

  what do you drink?.

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  Beer is proof that gawd loves us
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  Could God create a rock so heavy He could not lift it?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one question that stretched theologians during the middle ages was; could god envision or make a four sided triangle or a three sided square or some other atrocity.

  at first the problem seems foolish, but it really is an instance of a more fundamental problem: is god bound and limited by the laws of reason and logic or not?.

  i've had this conversation on jwd before but i was never satisfied with it.

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  tinker

  I give 2 1/2 **'s and the Vulcan sign to bluecanary's boyfriend. Live long and prosper.

  and 4**** to M.C. Escher = WOW