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  "Sharing" a piece of myself - part 1

  by Tallyman in

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  if you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.

  to the print appearing below @.

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing1.html.

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  emyrose

  I don't know what to say because I'm so shocked by
  the depth of tragedy in your life. I hope
  that you are surviving well and have some happiness in
  life. Your family sounds a lot like my family, really
  dysfunctional. Of course my tradegy in life is in no
  way as horrifying as yours. You have to be one incredibly
  strong human being to be able to live with all that and
  still manage to keep your sense of humor and laugh and
  make us laugh with your posts. I'm not the hugging type, but I'll
  extend a compassionate hug to you, from one human being to
  another.-Emyrose
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  Get a life - stop posting. Why?

  by philo in

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  newbies and others are often saying, "move on", in other words, get a life, remove yourselves from the influence of wtism completely.

  there are many good answers to this, but i think there is one answer, which has not been much considered.

  the international 'apostate' world, to which we contribute, has mushroomed in the last 10 years in: numbers, public profile, influence on the wts policies (and in jws awareness), and in all areas of knowledge about the wt.

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  emyrose

  Newbies and others are often saying, "move on", in other words, get a life, remove yourselves from the influence of WTism completely.

  Isn't that exactly what regular lurking or participation in this discussion board helps us achieve? How else can we strip ourselves fully of the "WTism" if not by confronting the many aspects of
  our past existence as a JW? I had tried to deny or ignore this part of my life and my identity for several years, but it just would not go away and continued to cause all sort of problems for me. When I found this forum, I couldn't believe how many other ex-jws were out
  there trying to cope with the damages of post-JW life and was shocked to learn how many have been devastated by this cult. Even more
  astounding was learning about enormous corruption in the WTS, both in
  doctrinal and conduct areas. Unless we educate ourselves about just
  how dangerous our previous religion is we will continue to be in danger of falling victim to it again as well as other forms of mind-control or cults. So getting a life, a cult-safe one, is
  precisely what regular posters and lurkers are doing. Obviously, the
  ones that continue to post tend to be those that have been affected
  deeply and devastated more by the cult, which is not at all or in any way something to be ashamed of. It doen't mean they are weak by nature
  or stupid. It just means that they have deeper wounds,are not shy people and in a way are activists against their former oppressors.
  They are the type of people that make things happen (brave and energetic) rather than
  those who just sit back and never make a difference in the world.
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  I Find it all interesting!

  by glode in

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  before i startm let mejust apologizein advance ifmy spacekey doesnt work properly!

  !damn keyboard!

  anyways, i have been lookingthru theposts here for several weeks, i findmany of theopinions well thought out.

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  emyrose

  Hello glode,

  It's not only "all interesting" but lifesaving as well.
  Face reality, you are a member of a cult living in a
  dreamworld where you can remain a child forever by letting
  others make most of the important decisions for you.
  Or you can heed the warnings and valuable information
  on this forum and break free from the Jw cult and start
  living in the real world. Either way I wish you well.
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  Why Should I

  by hippikon in

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  dear friends.. i am at a turning point.

  why should i resist the borg?

  why should i dedicate a sizeable portion of my life to shooting down religious bigots?

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  emyrose

  Hi Hippikon,

  I personaly think it is great sport to kick the crutches from under these emotionally crippled social outcasts but is it good? Some of these people have nothing else in
  their lives apart from the “troof” and couldn’t function as normal human beings without it. (as is evident by the behaviour of some on this board)So why be cruel to them. Even
  to my own brother. I wouldn’t try to tip him out, as it would devastate his family (although it would be an easy task).

  I think that debating folks like You Know is extremely important. The agruments he makes are the ones lurkers who are considering
  returning to the JW cult or joining it may share. So those that take it upon themselves to debate him are exposing all the lies and flawed logic in JW teachings for these potential victims. It is a shame that these brave and dedicated ex-jws have to run the risk of being slandered and verbally abused by the likes of You Know. Right before finding this forum I was in an emotional and psychological
  hell and was even entertaining the thought of attending meetings again. The debates and presentations of research on this board have
  completely saved me from making such a tragic mistake. So I respectfully disagree with you that the debating is unwise.
  BTW, its nice to see you posting again.
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  Survey

  by Vienna in

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  how many on this board are: a) christains--not a jw b) jehovah's witnesses c) do not believe in god d) have a belief in god but just not active in anything right now.

  i'm new to the board and was curious as to everyone's standing.

  i'm 30, a christain, i left the jws 3 years ago (after being in it for 21 years) to follow jesus and heard of, among other good things, this great thing called: grace!

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  emyrose

  Hello Vienna,

  I'm under D. I belief in a Creator but don't really see myself joining any religious group in the future. However, I fully respect others'
  decision to join religious groups. I look at religions as vehicles for the moral education of the masses. They are unfortunately not
  perfect social systems but all social systems aren't and have detrimental consequences. As far as I am concerned, I have already
  graduated from one of the worst religious schooling in exsistence, Jehovah's Witnesses. Although I came out with some basic
  moral values, being the cult that it is, I also came out emotionally, psychologically and intellectually damaged. But I have worked
  earnestly to recover and am progressively improving in all three areas. I hope that you are enjoying similar success in combating
  post-cult effects. This board has a treasure of helpful info., so I highly recommend it to you. Good Luck!

  Thanks, Emyrose
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  Congradulations to DAD!!!!

  by VeniceIT in

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  well today june 6th marks my dad's one year anniversry from being df'd!!!

  whoohoooo!!.

  i can't belive it's been that long in some regards, but it seems like i've known you folks for years.

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  emyrose

  Well, Happy Emancipation Day!!!!!!!!

  You guys should have a special dinner and
  talk about all the benefits of being free
  from cult-life. You can ponder on how you could
  otherwise be wasting precious time on FS,
  attending meetings, preparing for these, while
  the world around u tastes the glories of life.
  Now the world is yours and you can run as freely and
  as far as your heart desires. Here's to life, CHEERS!!
  Begin to live out your dreams. GO FOR IT!!!!
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  Tacking??? WHAT???

  by VeniceIT in

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  well i was sick and tired of hearing the wts tacking anaolgy to solver everything so i looked it up online!!

  i did this last summer and hadn't looked at till today, just thought i'd share!.

  i'm working on putting stuff together and actually getting a website but here's a page for now!.

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  emyrose

  Venice, u are turning into Norm, Kent, Farkel, AlanF, etc!!!

  Thanks, your essay was an eye-opener.

  Can you let me know how they have varied on the higher authorities
  issue thru the years. Or let me know where to find it on the net.
  I have thrown out most of my JW lit. so I'm in the dark.
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  For XJWBill - about the Evil Christianity

  by Norm in

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  hello bill,.

  i have been away for a while so i didnt see your reply to my post about the final solution.

  posted: may 25, 2001 1:50:01 am .

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  emyrose

  One only has to to study the history of christianity to see it for what it really is.

  Hi Tina, you sound like a very knowledgeable individual,
  and obviously college educated. I always enjoy reading your
  posts. Did you come to this conclusion after taking courses
  in college or from reading atheistic literature? Which
  one was more influential? I'm curious because I've taken
  Liberal Arts courses that have always presented religion,
  including christianity, in a less negative light. Religions
  have functions in society, which are not exclusively harmful
  or mostly damaging. Also, can you clarify which conceptions of christianity you are referring to since there are many.

  Thanks, Emyrose
  PS, I'm sure you have a busy life so if you don't respond
  I'll understand. I'll probably ask you in the chat room anyway.
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  What is your favorite nickname for the Society?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  i've heard the borg alot.

  one of the recent posts had the matrix.

  some the firm.. i think that i like the matrix, so far.. what's yours?.

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  emyrose

  The Washed-up Tramps & Boozing Society
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  Is this how they control people?

  by Loki in

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  if religion is, as marx said, the opium of the people, do the borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions?

  is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"?

  is that why we feel so strongly about the borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?

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  emyrose

  It is so easy to generalise and make it sound like an educated statement, but it's just another opinion with its own biases. The world and humanity really isnt that simple.

  Hi Frontle, I agree with Larc's evaluation of this rather insightful comment of yours. People tend to stereotype anything that they don't have the time to examine fully. However, I would use the word "analysis" or even "lens" instead of "opinion," for the right connotation. After all, Marx wasn't just your average Joe smosh and his assessment about religion is respected to some degree in the various intellectual worlds. Yes,
  some folks tend to have a one dimensional reality, where things are
  viewed in simplistic ways stemming for a more intellectually romantic
  approach to their existence, imo. Religion may have grown too bitter
  in their reality, in their immediate world. Some are not always aware
  that religion plays different roles in society. It has not simply been a tool solely for evil purposes. Religion has served as an oasis
  for the poor and uneducated in terms of having an place where they
  could experience cultural spirituality among fellows. Others, let it carry cultural and traditional morality for them. Now I am not saying
  that there are no manipulative aspects to this , namely elite control and dominance of the masses. Yet the masses do not set up the structures (only influencing the areas within and in dif. degrees)
  of society and can only exercise a limited amount of power. So naturally, as rational actors within established society, they make use of what is available. We live under hierarchical structures.
  Maybe this may not sound ideal, but societies with enormous populations require it. It is inevitable social bureaucracy within
  our human evil/good reality. So saying that religion is ONLY or MOSTLY a bad thing (like the historical opium catastrophy of Marx's time and world) is to confine oneself to a one dimensional perspective of a very complex and long-existent part of civilization.