One thing that you might consider, if it's feasible, is moving. I'm sure some will pooh-pooh the idea, but it would be much easier to start over if you really did start over. Just an idea (not necessarily a good or feasible one).
Ephanyminitas
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Where do I go for support???
by scaredyetresolved ini would love some support since i am scared and confused, but i don't know where to turn.
my husband and i are both having our eyes opened wide after years of doubts.
we have finally read the "apostate literature" over the past few weeks and have checked and rechecked their sources.
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JWs in college gov't textbook
by Ephanyminitas ini just had my first government test today.
boy, i hope i passed.
(damn boring stuff.
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Ephanyminitas
I just had my first Government test today. Boy, I hope I passed. (Damn boring stuff.)
While I was studying in the campus library for the first time (ni-i-ice!), I found two places in my textbook that JWs are mentioned. The book is Kent Tedin's U.S. and Texas Constitutions and Politics. Just for the record, here they are (bold is my own):
Instead of acting as a bulwark against majority tyranny duing World War II, the Supreme Court endorsed these limitations on free speech. In Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, the court enunciated the fighting words doctrine that some words constitute violent acts. Walter Chaplinsky, a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses religious group, had asked a policeman to guard him from a threatening crowd objecting to his pacifist address. When the policeman gave him no protection but instead cursed him and asked him to "come along," Chaplinsky called the policeman "a God damned racketeer" and "a damned Fascist." Enunciating the fighting words doctrine, the Supreme Court upheld Chaplinsky's conviction on the grounds that he had used threatening words that are not speech but "by their very utterance inflict injury or intend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." (p. 123)
Yipes!
But the Supreme Court has in some cases allowed state interference with religious practice. In 1940, with war breaking out in Europe and patriotic fervor on the rise, the court upheld a West Virginia statute requiring that Jehovah's Witnesses salute the American flag in public school ceremonies, despite the fact that it was against the group's religion to salute a secular symbol. The Court said that schools could interfere with religious liberty in this case, because saluting the flag promoted "national unity, [which] is the basis of national security." Yet just three years later the Court, apparently realizing it had unduly curbed religious liberty, reversed the West Virginia decision. "Compulsory unification of opinion," wrote Justice Robert Jackson in the midst of the war against Nazism, "achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard." (p. 131)
And now you know ... the rest of the story.
Edited by - Ephanyminitas on 1 October 2002 12:23:40
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Update on my wife and son.
by dmouse inthis is an update on my earlier post about the treatment my son is getting from the elders, posted here:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37408&site=3.
well, benjamin informs me that today his mum drove him to the sunday meeting and kept him in the car until the meeting started, and then took him straight out after it had finished, so that the elders couldn't talk to him.. apparently an elder saw my wife in the street and approached her, but she told him to get stuffed (politely) but he informed her of what they intend to do.. it will be officially announced from the platform that benjamin no longer qualifies as an unbaptised publisher.. where do these bastards learn to be such bullies of children?
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Ephanyminitas
That's right! To HECK wit' 'em, says I. It's good that he is seeing the humor in this.
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What Is Your Favorite Overlooked Movie?
by gilwarrior inwhat i am talking about a movie that you thought was great, but is mostly forgotten by most people today.. well, my favorite overlooked movie is "a perfect world.
" in it kevin costner is an escaped felon who escapes from prison with another felon.
they then break into a house and kidnap a boy who is a (gasp!
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Ephanyminitas
Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon R: the Movie. :-p
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Favourite Simpson's secondary character?
by crownboy inthe simpsons has got to be my favourite animated series of all time.
obviously, all of the main characters are pretty good (my favourite main character is homer, dohhh!
so for the simpsons fans here, who is your favourite secondary character?.
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Ephanyminitas
My favorite co-star would have to be Professor Frink, what with the inventions and the funny and they GLAYvennnnn. (By the way, this thread should in the TV forum, methinks.)
Edited by - ephanyminitas on 30 September 2002 20:45:51
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Crazy accusations
by bomatt6 inyou can copy your post below to make sure it is not lost:.
all of this accusation stuff is so crazy.
i'm not buying any of this that is done against the catholics nor.
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Ephanyminitas
I'm feeling kind, so if you want your profile icon to look better, or if you have a picture you want to use, e-mail me and I'll fix it up for you. What the hey!
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ARE YOU A "MODERN--DAY APOSTATE"?
by minimus inthe september 15th watchtower says: "seeds of doubt can be sown by the media, through the internet,and by modern--day apostates.
" please explain.
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Ephanyminitas
Now, now ... we must keep in mind the Temporal Prime Directive. We can't interfere with the goings-on of barbarians' (i.e. Witnesses) in the past! Do YOU want to stand before the High Court defending yourself? I think not.
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Need a new name..get one here
by pincushion inhi, i am so glad i found this support group for bad name affliction.my name is falafel biscuits, my husband gizzard would not let me keep my mainden name bun, i figured whats the difference between a biscuit and a bun?
my dog fluffy and cat stinky don't seem to care they were put in the biscuit family.
liver nose who rents our basement is just like family to us.
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Ephanyminitas
You expect a 24-year-old man to walk around with a name like Poopsie Bubblefanny?!
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Shouldn't we be working?
by freedom96 inever notice that most posts are during "work" hours?
lol.
glad we can do something to lighten up at work!
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Ephanyminitas
Well, me -- I only work part-time as needed. And today I'm not needed. So forum's awaaay!
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Ted Jaracz - the accused
by Nathan Natas inat the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .
i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.
there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.
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Ephanyminitas
Grits writes:
Shame shame on everyone for being Doubting Thomases, as if Bill and the attorney have not thoroughly gotten to know this lady, and who know all the details, the facts, etc. Why do you people show such a lack of confidence in silentlambs and its founder and in the fact that they would not let someone speak publicly "off the wall" without knowing EVERYTHING "behind the scenes" about this? I thought those on this forum had better sense.
I must disagree. Those of us who are skeptical ARE showing good sense. I'm not at all saying she's a liar or that she's fabricated anything. But I cannot accept this account as solid fact until more evidence about it comes out (e.g. a court case). After being in the organization so long, I've learned not to just accept what I'm told, no matter how it sounds.
I don't know Bill Bowen, and I don't have intimate contact with Silent Lambs; thus, I don't personally know how much "behind the scenes" info S.L. has verified. I don't know the victim, and I only have one person's account of what happened. No matter how passionate and sure she might be -- and no matter how likely it is that what she says IS true -- I just refuse to the believe her claims on hearsay alone. Especially something of this magnitude. That would be foolishness on my part. I understand that some people know this young woman. THEY can place their trust in her because they KNOW her, whereas I do not.
I hardly think I'm a "doubting Thomas" for excerising proper restraint.