Posts by boyzone

it's safe to say that in most instances, it appears that the catalyst for the final move away from jw's, the real start of a road toward a jw exit, is something that affected you personally, whether that was you or a loved one/family member.

we hit our personal bs level, can't take it anymore,.

then we start to examine the flaws of jw dogma.. i would suggest that most do not start a jw exit because they examine the dogma on a personal study project and find out that something isn't right.

boyzone

Hi Wobble

Thank you for your kind words. it WAS difficult to remember that time and write it down, you're very perceptive to notice - thanks!

Its great when kids have the maturity to see when you've done your best in raising them and say so isn't it? My second eldest recently had his 24th birthday and we gave him a lovely day to celebrate. At the end of the day, he said, "You know something mum, this day has been one of the best days of my life. All I ve ever wanted is to have you, dad and my brothers around me on my birthday - and here we are. Thanks for making it so special"

Those words from him meant ALOT to me and as a family we're all much closer because of loving each other without conditions. I just wish my parents were more involved with our lives - but I count my blessings, amd they're many!

Its GREAT to be out...

love

BZ

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When Does It End?

by Little Girl Lost in

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does anyone know frome experience ... when does it end?.

the shunning.. after you have been reinstated and you think you are back to square 1 ... then it all goes south.. it's like you were still df'd.

don't post "what did i expect" sort of thing.

boyzone

The shunning should end as soon as your reinstatement is announced. Of course some my not have heard the announcement so they might continue to shun not realising the situation has changed.

Why do you ask? whats your experience?

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What are the Major Issues with Jehovah's Witnesses?

by AllTimeJeff in

it's safe to say that in most instances, it appears that the catalyst for the final move away from jw's, the real start of a road toward a jw exit, is something that affected you personally, whether that was you or a loved one/family member.

we hit our personal bs level, can't take it anymore,.

then we start to examine the flaws of jw dogma.. i would suggest that most do not start a jw exit because they examine the dogma on a personal study project and find out that something isn't right.

boyzone

Hi Jeff

For example, I stated that in general, most leave because of some bad experience that happened to them as a catalyst. Up to this point, most who have responded have stated that it was indeed research on their own that started their exit. Hardly corroboration if I were looking to prove a point.

My catalyst was a bad experience, well several to be exact. The first was one of my sons leaving the witnesses after being reproved for smoking. He was 17 and not baptized so avoided being disfellowshipped but nonetheless it cut me up deeply. Then a year later my eldest son who was baptized was discovered to be having an gay relationship. As JW parents, to say we were devastated would be putting it mildly. My son was first reproved but when he couldn't stand the control any longer, he left. However the elders couldn't leave it there and tried every way possible to get in contact with him. Finally they caught up with him and asked him that loaded question, "do you still want to be one of Jehovahs Witnesses?" Of course the answer was no and he was then disassociated.

After all this stress and drama in our lives and watching my parents now shun their grandchild, my husband had had enough. He announced one sunday morning that he doesn't believe all this Witness crap anymore and he's not doing it. He refused to attend another meeting from then on (and he hasn't)

So now it was only me and the 2 youngest boys at the meetings. My 3rd son then said that he doesn't want to come to the meetings anymore but wanted to stay home with his dad, he was 14. Finally it was just me and the youngest still going but he hated it. The battles I had trying to keep the younger coming with me was exhausting that in the end it was easier to leave him at home with his dad too.

So I was on my own at the meetings. At one time all 6 of us were there as a family but now it was just me and I felt a TOTAL FAILURE. I cannot describe the depths of my misery at this time. I felt as if I'd lost every one of my precious sons and my husband to Satan and they weren't gonna make it through armageddon.

But I was hopeful!! After all, I still had God's Organization and thats the place to be for comfort and encouragement - right?

Then I went to the Sunday meeting and read this in the Watchtower;

"Mother watched our association very closely," recalls the eldest of three boys in one family in which the mother has been a full-time minister over the years. "We did not associate with our schoolmates but only with those in the congregation who had good spiritual habits. She also regularly invited those in full-time service—missionaries, traveling overseers, Bethelites, and pioneers—to our home for association. Listening to their experiences and seeing their joy helped to implant in our hearts the desire for full-time service." What a joy to see today all three sons in the full-time ministry—one serving at Bethel, one having attended the Ministerial Training School, and one pioneering!

Oct 1st 05 WT pg 30 par 16

This was the infamous "education" watchtower but I remember it for very different reasons.

The Watchtower conductor that day highlighted the fact that there was no mention of a husband in this paragraph and that it was the mothers fine example and diligent work that had yielded such fine results.

Now having lost all 4 of my sons and my hubby to the "world" despite being just as diligent as this mother, it felt like Jehovah, instead of giving me comfort, was rubber stamping my forehead with a big fat FAILED.

I literally couldn't stomach another moment in that hall and had to leave. I barely made it back to my car before breaking down. Later on that week I took every paracetamol in the house I could find just to numb the pain I felt. Not only did I feel a failure but Jehovah, through His Organization had told me I'd failed too. What was the point of living any longer? We were all going to die at armageddon now, and I'd worked SO hard to bring up my kids in the truth! I'd been really conscientious and I was just so tired!

After being hospitalised for a while, I came home but I was never the same. The sense of failure was so acute that I couldn't shake it off no matter how much field service I did or how many meetings I went to. In the back of my mind I just couldn't understand where I'd gone wrong with my family. I'd done everything that the Society had advised on the subject of bringing up kids in the truth yet still it hadn't worked. Why?? Surely they spoke for God didn't they? God's word never fails, so how come it had all gone horribly wrong? Was it really all my fault? Or did they really speak for God? Perhaps they dont!!!

For the first time I began to join the dots.....Of course such thoughts couldn't be tolerated for long so I decided to give myself a spiritual boost. I decided to go back to the wonderful truths of 1919 when Jesus chose them as his channel. I felt sure they must have been teaching some very special truths back then to be chosen by Christ and I wanted to be strengthened by learning about them - right?

Oh my, oh lordy lordy me!

Wel the rest as they say..is history.

A short time later I disassociated. Now I can happily say we are a united family again and I'm a mum who has learned to love her children unconditionally without encumbant rules imposed upon her from an ignorant man made organization claiming to speak for God. These people caused me and my family untold misery and nearly cost me my life. I will not forget in a hurry.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-21-09 WT Study (GOD'S WISDOM)

by blondie in

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pardon the problems in posting.

comments you will not hear at the 06-21-09 wt study (april 15, 2009, pages 15-19)(jehovah's wisdom).

review comments will be in red.

boyzone

Leolaia

JW publishers = locusts

Young women = cows in heat

Worldlings = insect pests infesting a home

Catholic priests = dumb dogs

What else can be added to this illustrious list?

What about;

Apostate = vomit eating dog

Apostate = a pig rolling in filth

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Watchtower pictures

by Apolodet in

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can anybody explain me what is this i find now and then in the publications?.

here are links to scanned pages:.

http://depositfiles.com/files/699fzl36c.

boyzone

......a vivid imagination

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How many Witness families do you know that still shun their children?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

my congregation had many teens that were disfellowshipped.

none of them have been back to the meetings.

they either got married or moved out of their parents home.. it saddens me that i haven't seen any of them at any family functions.

boyzone

My mum refuses to shun me no matter what. She doesn't care what the Society say, she's not doing it and thats that.

I just wonder how strong her resolve would be if the Society tightened things a little more and threatenend to disfellowship her if she didn't start shunning me.

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Why did you pick your avator or username?

by cognac in

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well, i picked my username because that's what i saw in front of me and i like the way it sounded.

no real story behind that.

i picked my avator because that's the way i felt.

boyzone

I got 4 sons so my home is definately a boy zone. I wish I had an avatar but not sure how to post one.

I love your Sally Sparrow Leolaia, that was my fav episode too. Such a clever story. Don't blink!

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What Was YOUR Worst Quality As A JW?

by minimus in

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for me it had to be that i was trained to be judgmental.

i'm naturally a person who doesn't believe everything someone says---just because they say it's true.

still, a "good elder" is supposed to be watchful of what might "contaminate" the congregation.. so, it's time to bare your soul.

boyzone

Hard-hearted, judgmental, dogmatic and arrogant. Ok thats 4 but I can't choose a worst one, I was equally good at all of them.