Posts by boyzone

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Worst Night of the Year

by Quendi in

well, it's that time of year again.

the memorial season is upon us and jws the world over are getting ready for the celebration which this year falls on 17 april.

for the first time since 1975, yours truly will not attend and i couldn't be happier.

I'm disassociated and shunned like many of you here, in other words, a lost sheep in the eyes of a JW. How was a lost sheep supposed to be treated according to the bible? With the shepherd leaving the 99 to go find the lost one, making a thorough search until its found.

What do the JW's do?

Give out memorial invites to virtually EVERY home in the territory deliberately excluding mine. Do my JW relatives invite me verbally? Nope, not a word. Does any of the JW's invite me? Not a whisper.

It was tough the first year, I cried for the lack of love being shown. But its the 4th year now and I've done with crying. Every time memorial comes around their self righteousness and lack of love is reinforced in me, proving to myself I made the right decision to get out.

They can get stuffed.

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A lightning fast POLL: Two questions about CONVERSION

by Terry in

1. were you yourself converted from a religion other than jw to becoming a jw by door to door work?.

2.did you succeed in converting somebody in your own door to door work causing them to change religions to the point of baptism?.

quick answers, please.. .

boyzone

no

2

JET HARRIS

by St George of England in

just heard of the death of jet harris.

i suppose with all the happenings in japan and libya it didn't make much of a headline.. george.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kauontaa_te.

boyzone

RIP Jet.

Was he a JW like Hank Marvin?

39

Went round and round last night

by sinis in

jw
friends

so, my mother is still in.

last night at my parents home she starts in with me on how she is going to ask my sig other to the memorial (puke), and that i should not forbid her to go.

we went round and round about how the jw's are bs, gave many examples and it always came back to some twisted circular reasoning, that i still do not fully understand.

boyzone

Snoozy

but Being a JW was his choice..I respected that boundary..as I expected him to do mine..which he didn't..after all , he was still a JW..

Isn't that what Flipper just highlighted? The JW's DON'T respect boundaries, thats the problem. Flip suggested a quiet word by sinis to his mom about respecting those boundaries.

she should ask the wife directly and the wife should speak for herself..if she didn't know what to say then it is her problem to grow a backbone and say no or go

Its all very well you saying "grow a backbone" but for many people that doesn't come easy depending on their personality and character. Whilst I agree with you that respect is important, so is support when someone is being intimidated by a forceful JW. Sinis is in the best position to judge if his partner needed support or not.

So lets play out some hypothetical situations.

MIL asks partner to the memorial, partner doesn't want to go but feels intimidated by MIL due to the endtimes conversation and isn't familiar with the doublespeak and false arguments being used. She reluctantly agrees to go to be polite.

Sinis respects her decision.

After the memorial which she doesn't understand, she again reluctantly agrees to a bible study with MIL.

Sinis respects her decision.

MIL pins her down to a definate day for the study, refusing to be put off by excuses. Partner is taken through the "Bible Teach" book with MIL. Still nobody warns her about the double speak and the insider doctrines. She starts to see the "logic" behind the way she's being taught.

Sinis respects her decision.

She progresses well and starts to be suckered into the Witnesses. She spends more time at the meetings, qualifies for FS and decides to be baptised. She insists on Sinis marrying her or she leaves.

Sinis, not wanting to marry, respects her decision to leave.

The relationship breaks up. Sinis is left without the woman he loves and the Witnesses have a new recruit.

A purely hypothetical situation but one that could have been avoided if Partner had some support in dealing with the forceful MIL in the first place.

And if this really was a true scenario, would we now been lambasting sinis for not protecting his partner and his relationship when he had the chance?

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Went round and round last night

by sinis in

jw
friends

so, my mother is still in.

last night at my parents home she starts in with me on how she is going to ask my sig other to the memorial (puke), and that i should not forbid her to go.

we went round and round about how the jw's are bs, gave many examples and it always came back to some twisted circular reasoning, that i still do not fully understand.

boyzone

sinis

I'm sorry you're facing this aggravation but have you thought that you've got EVERY RIGHT to tell your parents to butt out of anything that might come between you? For example if some other guy was hitting on your girl, would you allow it? If some high pressure salesman was pushing unwanted items on her, would you just stand back and say nothing? If some shyster was trying to fleece her out of hard-earned cash would you sit by and let it happen? Hell NO!

Just because your sig other is an adult and can make her own decisions doesn't mean you can't protect her from a well-known and personally experienced con.

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I will return to the borg because.....

by cyberjesus in

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friends

i was just reading of a dude who is going back to the matrix.... to save his wife?

to meet a wife?

to divorce scripturally his wife?

boyzone

Well, I'm going back cos I've got this new bag, its all shiny and lovely with perfect space for 2 books, a bible, 6 pairs of mags and a notebook. Its gotta be done.

On second thoughts it'd be handy at the Isle of Wight rock festival this year too. Oh, decisions decisions!

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30th Anniversary of the Free Minds Journal

by Dogpatch in

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friends

30th anniversary of the free minds journal.

sunday, 13 march 2011 22:09well my friend chaton and i just finished sealing the last envelope of the 30th anniversary issue of the free minds journal.

i guess it must be one of the longest cult-related journals running.

boyzone

Yep, a BIG thank you from me too Randy, and congrats on 30 years of excellent work! I always look forward to the journal arriving and this time is no exception.

And for all the people you know that Freeminds has helped over the years, I bet there's many thousands that have been helped that you aren't aware of. That must be deeply satisfying.

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Yay! Finally 2 Jdubs at my door.

by cyberjesus in

so i was posting on the forum and 2 neatly dressed jws came.

they didnt know who i was so i opened the door.... .

they started with their regular fear inspiring statements that god will destroy the "world", so i asked if he was gonna destroy me..... and thats where the fun started.

boyzone

Ray. Lighten up. Cyber didn't waste their time, he made them think and thats well worth the hour spent. In fact its probably the most productive hour the JW's had spent in a L-O-N-G time.

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"Leaving Amish Paradise" TONIGHT 16th.Mch. BBC2 21.00hrs GMT

by wobble in

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friends

the above programme, a follow up to one that was made about a schism in the amish religion, follows two families as they try to make a go of living in the real world .. the shunning practised by the amish is featured, it should be interesting..

boyzone

Thanks for the headsup Wobble, I'll be watching.

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April 15th WT - WT Society says " Obeying Us is Same as Obeying God "

by flipper in

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this is a non-study article in the witness only version of the april 15th titled " do you discern the evidence of god's guidance ?

" essentially in this article the alleged " faithful slave " is telling witnesses that to be approved to survive armageddon- they will have to recognize the " faithful & discreet slave's " authority in their lives.. notice these direct quotes from pg.

4 , " jesus christ is the assigned leader of the congregation.

boyzone

That article smacks of desperation. I reckon there are so many starting to question the authority of the FDS that they're having to tighten the net once more. No more softly softly, its the "obey us or die" message.