I would let them do the groveling! If they want to see your children they have to play by your rules.
nj
in the last year.
some of you may remember a little bit of what happened last year when my family and i went to visit my parents - big fiasco, cops were called and we were thrown out - so i just had no desire to have any interaction with my parental units.
i don't call, they've called a few times to speak to the kids (they called it checking on them like i'm some deranged person).
I would let them do the groveling! If they want to see your children they have to play by your rules.
nj
in all the years that you were an active jw did: 1. going out in the ministry when you were down or felt depressed every make you forget your problems and cause you to feel better?
2. going to meetings when you had to rush around and practically yell and scream at your husband/wife/kids to get there ever cause you to feel better that you went instead of staying home to relax?
these are the top two elder solutions to jw problems.
No
No
I only went because it was a house rule, dad made the rule, kids followed.
nj
this year, i've decided to compile a photo album of some memorable moments that occurred at this year's convention.
jehovah's happy people sit, attentive with notepads in hand, eager to indulge in the spiritual food that the faithful and discreet slayv has prepared for this most important and memorable event!
here are some of the more memorable people who were in the audience:.
Why is that cup floating in the air in the last picture??
The demonz did it cause he didn't go to the convention!
nj
long story short, (i'll post it later), after many years of problems with the wts my wife and kids left me and she has filed for divorce (no adultery was committed).
feeling really sad right now.
i was a great husband and father, however, i could not take the thought of going to any more meetings and have over the last year started to find was to avoid meetings.
I'm sorry to hear about your wife and kids.
What's up with so many in this org getting divorced? what happend to adultery only? My good friend, has been divorced x 2, his first wife fooled around on him, second wife he married because she was "very theocratic" (whatever), she left him for about 8 years and just recently sent the divorce papers, no grounds at all just irreconsilable differences (sp?).
Are they allowing this type of divorce now? I guess they are no better than other people after all, huh?
nj
when perfection is yours in every way.
i can't keep away from the mirror long, 'cause my reflection reveals my superior stature and charm.
those who know me love me, owing their affections to my being a hell of a man.
Jeez, you sound like my 17 year old son! He stands in the mirror and says, hey ma, you gotta admit I'm sexy I refuse to refer to my 17 year old child, as sexy , he drives me nuts.
nj
check out what i just read in the july 07 readers digest pages 108-109 :.
"why do we say cheers when we clink our glasses?
the word cheer comes from the latin word face or countenance and originally referred to any facial expression, cheerful or otherwise.
Cheers to you and to no more silly "no-no's"
nj
i use my opportunities with my wife to have mini-interventions, but i do things differently with .
my mother.
she knows that i am no longer an elder, but she hasn't asked more about what's .
OTWO -
It sounds like you have a great plan, whether is planned or not, keep doing what you are doing. And I agree buy them some damn flowers, women love flowers!! It makes us smile
nj
i have only been here for six months and i can see why so many people have to leave or at least take breaks from this forum.. what are you doing to cope?
i want to stay, please help.
pm me if needed.. philip.
I had been out of the cult for 20+ years when I found JWD, most days I post, some days I just read, on the days I can't get to a computer I wonder who's on, if anyone is having a crises, any good news so I guess I'm addicted. I think letting a thing like an internet discussion board get the best of you is something each and everyone has control over.
JUST DON'T GO TO THE SITE!!!
nj
ok. so what is the story about people getting upset with others because their phone calls are not returned?
i know that sometimes i don't return calls, but i also know that sometimes people just call to chat, gossip, bitch, and overall waste my time and add to my stress level.
second, i beleive this complaint is self centered: you didn't return my phone call.
I try really hard to treat people the way I want to be treated. So if I call someone, say a friend just to chit chat and get their voice mail, I leave a message. As a friend I expect that person to call me back at their convience as I would call my friend back. If my brother, sister, even my pain in the A** mother and father happen to call or I call them, it's just common courtesy to return the call.
IMHO - If you don't want people to call you, don't get a phone or at least don't give out the number. You could always just say, I don't like to talk, so please only call me in an emergency.
nj
this is only a few minutes long, but i thought people might be interested in viewing it.
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http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=33bf935e94036b41979b&page=8&viewtype=&category=mr
WOW, this brought back memories of sitting at Yankee Stadium and the Meadowlands for those boring conventions!!! Thank godness I don't have to endure that anymore.
nj