as ive mentioned in other posts, i felt obligated to go to the dc (in hamilton) this weekend to help my family with my aging mom, who in my opinion just goes for the social outing because she is physically not able to stay awake for more that 1/5 th of the whole sessions except intermissions.. i know others have posted their observations of the dc they attended but id like to make an addition from things that just jumped right out at me and made me go argggghhhhh!.
and btw....i felt some of the comments made seemed to be as though they were answering their justification of some of the things being brought out on the internet, including here.. on friday, even in talks that were not about higher education, they managed to slip in their subtle propaganda, as in:.
- bob alton, said peter and john were outspoken about gods word and were unlettered and ordinary men they didnt need higher education to speak wondrous things of god.
Redhorsewoman, yes it is the same old stuff as they have been spouting for decades. By making it general, it can apply to almost anything.
That way, the elders can apply it to whatever the main problems are in their congregations, when they do the rehash at the meetings.
Wolfy, you commented
(BTW..My firewall goes nuts when I come here...Wondering if anyone else has that experience.)Mine does, too
esther
i thank all of you for your responses to my posting "i need your help".
this posting goes hand in hand with that one.. i recieved this e-mail from an elder today.
it seems that his whole personality has changed over the weekend.. -since you are going to reply to my last note... i thought that i would mention something:.
I would be suspicious at a change of mind. Whatever you do, don't let down your guard. Don't put anything in writing that could possibly be twisted. Remember, if there is a chance it could be taken to mean other than what you intend to say, it probably will be.
He said
I thought that I would mention something:I am saddened if you decide to leave the Christian Congregation. I think about you a lot. I never foresaw this situation arising... probably because I was distracted by this whole business mess
If you answer him, you can be too distracted by the business mess to think of anything else.
I agree with expatbrit
Perhaps a non-commital reply to gain more time is in order, along the lines of "having some things to sort out first; will call you later" kinda thing.Now start making alternative business arrangements, fast!
I think that is good advice, if you can follow it. Don't admit to ANY doubts about the 'Christian Congregation'
esther
i love quotes of wisdom, so i thought i'd post some for others who like them too.
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bew
If you find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere - Frank A Clark
Opportunities multiply as they are seized - Sun Tzu
Wealth is enyoing what we already have, not getting more of what we think will make us happy - John Rogers and Peter McWilliams
The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain - Dolly Parton
hey all!!
i got to see prince, last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he was totally and .
He was on stage for over 2 hours and did all of our favorite songs (except the nasty ones and the ones with swearing!)
What are good little dubs doing having favorite songs that are nasty and have swearing in?
esther
hey danny i just wanted to mention not to use more than about 2 tablespoons of chivas for a big dish like a roast or brisket and for steaks, keep it to 1 teaspoon per steak.. right now, i'm learning how to cook beef brisket.
cooking one tonight i've been marinading since friday night.
i've been told you can marinade one in beer but haven't tried it yet.. mike.. expect nothing and you will never be disappointed,
BEW
Me too, but I like eating
man...is my butt sore!...
(my head too)...went to the dc today.thought i would give ya a run down with a few observations.
usual crap about daily text and how important it is...yawn..not awake yet.
Wolfy,
Elders have a heavy responsiblity..don't shrink back..What they say must be firmly based on the Bible and the WT lit.
What they really mean is it must be firmly in line with WTBTS ideas.
Guess they are too lazy to change the talks. Been giving the same ones for over 30 years, at least.
Larc,
If anyone asks me about why I am there, I will tell them that I am a free lance writer, which is kinda, sorta true.Good idea, you would probably get VIP treatment.
Should I tell them that I am writing an article for Free Minds Journal?Maybe do that at the end. That would really stir them up.
esther
g'day kent,.
i have just enjoyed your post about you hot-headed norwegians ;) .. well here's a true yarn that demonstrates how we argue in australia.
today for the first time in over ten years i found myself in a raging argument with strangers.
My dictionary definition
Oriental - 'of the Orient, of the East or countries E. of the Mediterranean, esp. E Asian;'
So guess that gives us a bit of leeway, but Turkey would fit there.
Wendy,
it is amazing how precious a dime is to a man that drives a Caddy, of course that may be why he drives a CaddyI think you are right
esther
i love quotes of wisdom, so i thought i'd post some for others who like them too.
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bew
Learning new things won't help the person who isn't using what he already knows, -Anonymous
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -Mark Twain
Don't be discouraged by failure. Failure, in a sense, is the highway to success because every discovery of what is false leads us to seek after what is true. And every fresh experience points out an error which we shall, afterwards, carefully avoid. -John Keats
sometime ago i posted a discussion on h20 about the nov. 1991 kingdom ministry school for elders / ms held at woodburn, oregon.
during that school session the co stated that elders who commit a serious sin, even a gross sin, did not have to be removed if the event took place two or three years prior, and the elder continued to be respected, giving evidence of jehovahs blessing.
the co stipulated that this only applied to elders and ms and not to regular publishers.
Amazing, you said
The KM School in 1991 emphasized this article with the addition that because too many Elders and MS were being removed when the Society felt that they needed these men because they are running low on men to fill positions of service
These are the men who are supposed to be a hiding place from a storm and a refreshement for the R & F
Now that there is a bit of an exodus and they are losing R&F, I wonder if this article will be applied to them?
So much for God's clean organisation.
Huh, what a corrupt society
BTW Amazing, did you post Justice #15 – Molesters Under Every Rock!?
If so, I must have missed it, and would be grateful if you could give me the thread.
esther
on thursday, the 21st, i lost a dear friend.. he was an older man, some 25 years older than me.
he was not a dub.
we became friends over 10 years ago because of a mutual hobby, that of ham radio, or amateur radio if you prefer.
Zev, I am so sorry for your loss, but I am glad that you got to see him when you knew it would be the last time.
At least you won't have the 'if only I could have....' feeling.
(((((Zev))))))
Deepest sympathy to you, Zev
esther
