Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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I got finish listening to some Kingdom Songs for the 1st time i my life...

by A-Team in

...and i hate to speak ill at songs that praise him, but those songs have made my ears bleed.

and tehy say they don't want people with talent.

::rolls eyes:: .

SnakesInTheTower

but those songs have made my ears bleed

A-Team ...LMAO at that comment....me, I'd rather listen to country music than KM (dont shoot me country music fans)

Q: what do you get if you play kingdom melodies backwards?.... you get your life back... (take off of old joke about country music)

its too bad that so much talent goes to waste...some of the newer Kingdom Melody CDs are actually pleasant, except that they are Kingdom Melodies...

all the talent they gather to record music each year... imagine if they would play regular music! I know a lot of talented dubs..one young brother, a promising musician..had been offered positions with a world class symphony in the US...turned it down...hardly even plays anything anymore...all because of the Borg....how sad....

SnakesInTheTower (of the "listening to anything but Kingdom Melodies" Sheep Class)

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Paragraphs Please - Your Online Pet Peeves

by Mysterious in

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what are some of your forum pet peeves?.

paragraphs - please use them.

i'm sure you have something to say but if it makes my eyes bleed i pass.. capitals - i don't know about you but i think this just looks juvenile but no worse than this.

SnakesInTheTower

nvrgnbk

wont read a super long post

what's your tolerance level? I tend to be a bit long of wind....I am trying to edit down to be more succinct, cause I want my posts read and commented on...

newbie's introduction, no matter how long. Their stories are always so fresh and original

I agree with jgnat, its worth reading through them...

and as for those whose native language is not english.... I dated a sister for awhile who was from another country whose native language is nothing like english.... the first time I spoke with her on the phone, I understood 5% of what she said...after 6 months.... I understood 95%...and her english in writing (via IM) got a lot better...and they teach english in their schools....but if they dont use it....they lose it.... sooo...those posters not speaking english...practice practice practice here...we APPRECIATE you here...

SnakesInTheTower (of the "appreciating good grammar" Sheep Class)

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The Scotsman...this thread is started for you if you wish to comment....

by FreedomFrog in

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the scotsman said:.

<< tee hee - dubs will believe anything, lol.>>.

that's good because you shouldn't believe everything you hear in this world.

SnakesInTheTower

I for one, am glad scotsman is posting.... reminds me why Im here.....and why Im trying to get out..

Scotsman... I was where you are not that long ago, maybe 5 years ago...but I have opened my eyes to see what I wish was not true. I want this (JW beliefs) to be the Truth! I spent my whole life believing it hook, line, and sinker...raised in it..... I have commented elsewhere on this forum about this...who doesnt want all the promises of the WT to come true (paradise, live forever, see dead loved ones, perfect health)...but its all a fantasy..and...

...Once you realize you have been hoodwinked by a man made ~~religious~~ publishing corporation, you feel like someone hit you in the gut and wont stop.

I respect your desire to defend the JW beliefs...I would have been at your side not long ago....

... but if you are here, then you either a) have doubts yourself about JW beliefs or b) are ignoring the faithful slave by being here and you should hurry up and immediately turn yourself in to the local BOE for a session of ~~kind counsel serious~~ Judicial Committee Ass Whoopin about the dangers of the internet apostate sites. (but we wont turn you in...we want you here.. LOL)

sincerely... SnakesInTheTower (of the "Fading at an accelerated rate" Sheep Class)

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Common Refrigerator at work - keeping what's ours

by Jim_TX in

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where my wife and i work, they have a refrigerator in the break room.

it's used for temporary storage of employee food items - for lunch, and in some cases for butter or other perishable items.. it's easier to take a tub of butter and leave it at work for spreading on toast, than it is to take a tub of butter in to work, use it, then take it home in the evenings.. well, we take a few things like the above mentioned tub of butter (not margarine), bottles of water, and sodas.

we usually put our initials on the top of the bottles (which is a pain - but necessary), and place them in a certain location in the refrigerator.. the water and sodas, go inside the door at the bottom, all grouped together.

SnakesInTheTower

Jim_TX

they do this because these individuals are selfish thieves...although they probably dont view themselves this way.

Here's a thought.. you are a technical kind of guy....get a bottle of diet Coke.. clearly mark it as yours....open it...rig a single Menthos on the underside of the lid and close it... so that when it is opened again, the Menthos drops in...we all know what happens if you have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByH_2Mizz_I

I used to be responsible for cleaning the refrigerator at one job (and we had 100 employees)... people would leave stuff in there forever...I posted a notice a week in advance that anything left by x date was tossed... I was nice enough to clean out the tupperware and leave it on top of the fridge instead of tossing it (goes against my avoid the landfill nature)...The next day, nice shiny clean fridge...that night, someone stole the inside top of the lid of my thermos...making my thermos useless...as retribution.

the point of the story...you mentioned leaving a tub of butter...12-20 employees, maybe you can do that....but if 12-20 employees leave something every day, pretty soon, no room for new lunches every day.... maybe you can do what Scully suggested

gets transferred from larger containers in my fridge and pantry at home to just enough sized portions in Tupperware containers or ziploc bags that travel to and from work

unless its a personal size fridge in an office, IMO, common fridges should only be for the sodas your boss buys for everyone and the for stuff brought in for that days lunch...and taken home each night....

I worked at one place that had 300+ employees and 2 commercial size fridges...every other week 1 was cleaned out... the howls of people who think they can use the work fridge to store stuff for weeks........when their stuff was gone....priceless...

SnakesInTheTower (of the "hatin to clean the work fridge" Sheep Class)

hey, and thanks for a nice nonJW "real life" thread

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UPDATE - Please critique my speech!!!!

by sinis in

thanks to jwfacts who helped me out.

please feel free to advise me of changes, or additions.

please keep in mind that my speech is supposed to be 6 minutes or less so i don't think i can add a whole lot.

SnakesInTheTower

..havent read it all, BUT... first the commendation (from a former Borg TMS Overseer...ha ha) Sinis ...you have excellent points that would be interestng to hear if you had the time.

now the "counsel", but dont worry, no W for you....

..... you do have too much material for 6 minutes or so...which is too bad, because you really have great info...if you read that outline as written out loud, as in a speech, it will go beyond 6 minutes...I know, I timed it....over 6 for certain...

....this is not an outline, its a manuscript masquerading as an outline (with the I, II, III, A, B, C format)... slim down the outline, know your material (which I think you do), and speak from the heart. If you have this outline up there during your speech, you will be tied to it and monotone.... go up with a simplified outline, and you will be extemporaneous and you will WOW them,.,,,,

and if you do a powerpoint, KEEP IT SIMPLE AND USE SIMPLE GRAPHICS WITH EASY TO READ, GOOD CONTRASTING TEXT that can be read from the back of the classroom...it may look great on your computer monitor, but look horrid from the back of the class........dont get fancy with the animation, graphics, etc....

just my opinion...and by the way, I went through a realspeech class in college about a year ago... I know the TMS helped some... but I learned how much I did not know about giving a proper speech...RE:mostly that you have to back up what you say with real facts...not Borg Provided facts...

hope you do well..

SnakesInTheTower (of the "still hates giving speeches" Sheep Class)

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UPDATE - Please critique my speech!!!!

by sinis in

thanks to jwfacts who helped me out.

please feel free to advise me of changes, or additions.

please keep in mind that my speech is supposed to be 6 minutes or less so i don't think i can add a whole lot.

SnakesInTheTower

sinis..

how to I paste a Word doc to this site?

answer: YOU DONT. You will always get the error if there are any kind of special formatting...

solution/workaround......copy/paste the text of the Word docurment into an open text editor (Notepad is the simplest)... (highlight the text in word, hit CTRL-C to copy the highlighted text, then place the cursor in the notepad window, hit CTRL-V to paste the text into the window. From there, you should be able to then copy/paste from Notepad into the JWD window for posting.... (not a bad thing to type long posts into notepad and pasting to the board here...in case that error pops up and you have to start over....)

you can do simple bolditalic and underline formatting (or all 3 at once) within JWD...anything more complicated, you have to use HTML code (ask the Wanderer how he does it)...

Hope that helps...would like to see what you have on your speech..

SnakesInTheTower (of the "non-HTML using" Sheep Class)

ps...after I posted, you figured out how to do it another way... good for you..now I will read on, but post tomorrow if I get a chance..its midnight now)

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Friendly talk with a couple of elders

by TooBad TooSad in

last week i received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality.

and lack of progress.

i said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years.

SnakesInTheTower

WELCOME MAZZIE

SnakesInTheTower (of the "not depressed anymore" Sheep Class)

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AID Book Vs Insight Volumes

by snowbird in

the aid to bible understanding encyclopedia was mostly written by ray franz.

were the insight volumes written to supplant his work?

if that is the case, how spiteful and petty can an organization become?.

SnakesInTheTower

I've read both AID book and the Insight volumes from cover to cover (nerd alert: I read the encyclopedia from A to about P or so as a kid). In fact, I have written all over the top edge of the Aid book that the Insight book a reminder to myself that this was replaced by the Insight book and to only use it to compare new and old and replace outdated references in outlines...

How anal was that? I was a do-gooder MS ...I studied the Insight book extensively a few years ago... enjoyed it at the time, especially the chronology portion...

looking back...neither publication is the scholarly book the dubs make it out to be... the research is biased and the sources are all pro-dub researchers....(but then so are most newspapers and many mainstream media mags...time, newsweek, us news...etc...all have their editorial bent/slant....

both are crap.... still in my bookcase....not sure why I keep any of it....just cant let it go quite yet...

SnakesInTheTower (of the "not so scholarly" Sheep Class)

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DO YOU THINK RELIGION IS A SCAM?

by badboy in

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any takers?

SnakesInTheTower

Since this is a board about and for ex-JW (and those still in looking out), let me comment on this question from the JW perspective, since that is all I have been. At no time, even when I was an elder, did I think I (nor do I believe most JW's) think I/we were scamming people by inviting them to "take life's water free" ™ . ..yeah, for most of us at least, our collective stomach churns at that classic JW catchphrase.... but we believed it truly. It sounded so good...Paradise Earth... Live Forever.... No More Death, No More Sickness, See Your Dead Relatives Resurrected. Of course we liked that concept. (just as most mainline religions use "going to heaven" as their carrot).... Do you think we would have bit at the JW line if the only thing was about "Universal Sovereignty" and "Making God's Name Known"...without the benefits of Paradise et al? Not likely.... most humans, if we are honest with ourselves, are not as altruistic as we would like to believe we are. (as a side note about altruism: I took a philosophy class in college a couple years back... I think this was what started cracking the JW armor.... we discussed altruism,...even a mother who would give her life to save the life of her child is not truly altruistic.... could she live with herself if she did not do everything possible for her child...no.... so..indirectly...it was about the child and herself...not just the child) Did we become JW just to scam people? No, Personally, I can think of easier, more financially productive ways to scam people. We wanted to share what we felt was true. Why did we stay so long...even as we realize the scam is on and the promises are nothing but a fantasy?.... because we wanted it to be true....so badly... I still want to see my daddy again...and part of me (the selfish side) wants the JWs to be right about this.....but I have to buck up and accept that the fantasy is just that..... Are we more gullible than others because we became JW (or any religious faith)? I dont think so.....just human. NOW....I DO BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS, ESP. MANY ELDERS (but not all of course) ARE IN IT FOR THE SUPPOSED PRESTIGE, POSITION, AND POWER that comes with moving up the ladder in the WTS. For brothers, it is: publisher, pioneer, MS, elder, CO, DO (or Bethel, Gilead, MTS).... for sisters (and again...NOT ALL..so dont shoot the snake!), it is: publisher, pioneer, marry your way up the Theocratic social strata up with a brother...gain power indirectly by influencing their elder husbands thinking. (How often did you hear about something in the congo that only an elder should have known about?) ... for me, in my opinion....THIS IS WHERE THE SCAM IS...THESE INDIVIDUALS....ENABLED BY THE GB....but more specifically... by the REAL POWER BROKERS..... The SERVICE DEPARTMENT...now coupled at the hip with the LEGAL DEPARTMENT....who both in turn control WRITING/TEACHING.........

nvr:

Humanity will not reach the next plateau until religion is discarded.

ABSOLUTELY... Also...I appreciate the opium comments made by a couple of posters here and other threads......I believe this too...humans, all of us, just want to be happy, just like the dope head wants to be happy... but like the dope head, those pursuing religion will never find lasting happiness in religion....scam or not... here's to moving on to another plateau...and a little more deep, independent philosophical thinking..... SnakesInTheTower (of the "not to be scammed again" Sheep Class)

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JW Website Barf alert

by reneeisorym in

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<body> .

SnakesInTheTower

so much for the good little dubs not putting up JW sites...

SnakesInTheTower (of the "definitely not a good little dub" Sheep Class)