Posts by Alpaca

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

jw
friends

i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

Thanks, Baba...very sad.

Dagney,

Thanks for sharing the story. Do you think it was guilty feelings that drove them to it?

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Evolution explained

by rebel8 in

difference between scientific laws, hypotheses, and theories: http://wilstar.com/theories.htm.

hypothesis: this is an educated guess based upon observation.

it is a rational explanation of a single event or phenomenon based upon what is observed, but which has not been proved.

Alpaca

It's all about being intellectually honest with ourselves.

For many, to accept the overwhelming evidence for evolutionary processes that have been at work on the earth for 2.5 billion years, raises the horrifying possibility that maybe we were not specially created, maybe this is all there is, maybe there is no life after death, no heaven or hell.

In fact maybe there is nothing so special about humans...we just happened to end up the top dogs with the big brains during the last geologic blink.

Even considering the possibilities is so scary for many people they prefer to do the whole ostrich head-in-the-sand exercise.

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

jw
friends

i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

No problem, Quirks. Thanks.

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Arcticle on JW Shunning

by Shepherd Book in

i wrote an article about watchtower-sanctioned shunning for next month's issue of minnesota atheist.

since most of you probably aren't subscribers, you can read it here:.

http://mnatheists.org/.

Alpaca

It's a thread I started but someone else came up with the Dub Snub. There is some very funny stuff on the thread. You might want to BTTT if think it's funny enough to share with all of the newbs who are on here today.

Here it is:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/158185/1/Spiritual-food-3d-Dub-grub-whadayathink

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Have You Ever Been "Too Late"?

by compound complex in

in the recent past i have recalled many kindnesses shown me as a younger man.

i probably said "thank you" at the time of a person's single kind gesture or act [polite thank yous were expected of 50s children]; some older people have acted on my behalf, however, over a period of time in ways that shaped me in a favorable way.

i couldn't have been aware at the time that their nurturing or mentoring me would have such far-reaching results.. several years ago it occurred to me how instrumental an older person's generosity toward me as a child put me where i am today.

Alpaca

I agree.

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Thanks and Who Am I...

by trebor in

jw
friends

first thanks to all for this board and forum and all the stories, information and thoughts that are shared.

i have been a lurker now for almost a year, and now that newbies can get on board, here i am.. here's my story.

baptized at 15 and made ministerial servant by 19. my father, mother, siblings and entire side of my mother's family are jehovah's witnesses.

Alpaca

Very brave of you guys. Good for you.

Welcome to the board.

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Arcticle on JW Shunning

by Shepherd Book in

i wrote an article about watchtower-sanctioned shunning for next month's issue of minnesota atheist.

since most of you probably aren't subscribers, you can read it here:.

http://mnatheists.org/.

Alpaca

Thanks S.B. a very succinct summary.

BTW did you catch thread with the dubisms that called shunning the "Dub Snub"???

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

jw
friends

i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

Quirks,

You are a funny guy and I love your posts...but this is a very sensitive subject that has caused a lot of pain.

Nuf said???

Thanks for being understanding.

Undercover and Blondie,

I agree with your observations. In the time period when my friend committed suicide there was a very anti-mental health attitude in the BORG--as if you could pray your way to sanity.

And, you are right ...who knows how many people could have gotten the appropriate help they needed. It's blood on the BORG's hands as far as I am concerned

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