So sorry for your loss. Sounds like you both found a measure of peace, however. You'll get through the funeral fine. My df'd brothers endured the "looks" and the invisible feeling he got from some of them, but others were sympathetic and spoke their condolences warmly.
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My Father passed away during the night
by jwfacts indad was a great man, great, despite the religion.
he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.
he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.
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JWs blur the lines.....what is the difference in brainwashing and "inculcating"?
by journey-on ini have been thinking about no room for george and his returning to the vomit kingdom hall.
(miz, do what you need to do to get mentally healthy.
i am particularly thinking about someone close to me, as well, and her severe fanatical attachment to the organization.
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I have been thinking about No Room For George and his returning to the vomit Kingdom Hall. (Miz, do what you need to do to get mentally healthy.)
I am particularly thinking about someone close to me, as well, and her severe fanatical attachment to The Organization. She lives in such a state of conditioning that she can't even go on a vacation out of the country without first finding out where the local Kingdom Hall is (even if she doesn't speak the language) and making arrangements to attend it.
It is my personal belief (no offense to anybody) that Jehovah's Witnesses are intentionally programmed by The Organization....there is a bona fide method to their madness. Now, if you were raised in it like I was, you have years to look back upon and actually see how this statement is true. Their teaching methods go beyond the norm and become more like a methodical brainwashing or perhaps even a form of classical conditioning complete with trigger words and phrases. I believe it is intentional simply because of the cookie-cutter-never-veer-from-the-lesson-plan induction technique to which they adhere.
Fear of detachment and other personality disorders and behavioral patterns result. They become too emotionally bound to the religion. If they found out the truth about the org tomorrow, it wouldn't matter to most of them. They are just too far gone and too emotionally attached to the cultish-like control. They are dependent in a very unhealthy way, yet are cognitively blind to it.
However, if you get into a discussion regarding the above, they come back with the OT scripture where God commands the Israelites in regard to his words to "inculcate them in your son and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up. And you must tie them as a sign upon your hand, and they must serve as a frontlet band between your eyes; and you must write them upon the doorposts of your house and on your gates.".....Deut. 6: 4-9
How do you explain the absurdity of applying THAT scripture to their methodology of indoctrination?
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Golly, what a wonderful unplanned weekend...
by Glander ingreat weather, lots of family dropping by and some staying over.
impromptu food arrangements turned out great.
a couple of months ago we converted the side yard into a campground setting with a fire pit, picnic table, and screen tent, etc.
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....I, too, had a similar weekend! I am renewed down deep inside. Sounds like you are, too, Gregor.
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R.I.P George
by fade_away inif it wasn't an extremely late (or extremely early) april fools joke, our friend no room for george seems to have departed......from this website.
apparently falling victim to a devastating love bomb that claimed his ability of thinking for himself and his freedom of heart, mind, body and soul.
i was wondering if maybe in the future he will be on the convention stage in front of a couple thousand people talking about his "experience".
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Leaving is a process that sometimes entails temporarily going back. I didn't do it cold turkey like some. It took a few years and lots of hills and valleys to travel through.
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Would you go back if you thought there were one in a million chances you were wrong?
by Paul Duda inoften i wake up in a cold sweat wondering if i'm wrong.
life is short.
i have only a brief time to make a decision.
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Three things helped me psychologically: #1...If it is the truth, I DO NOT want to live for eternity with a bunch of JWs and;
#2...I do not want to suffocate my children and their entire childhood with this religion taking the chance that this religion is the truth; and
#3... If it is true, I'm willing to die at Armageddon to live THIS life, the only one I know with 100% certainty is Truth, with authenticity.
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Do you still call it The Truth"?
by mamamo ini spent sometime with a fellow ex jw yesterday.
we had grown up in the same congregation and left within a few years ago.
she referred to it as "the truth.
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NEVER NEVER NEVER.
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"Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"
by TimothyT ini recieved a letter from my jw friend a few days ago who encouraged me to return to the organisation.
she quoted the following scripture, and although i think its a great one, the jw view of it is twisted.. lord, whom shall we go away to?
(john 6:66-69) this is the one organization he is using" (wt 75, 9/1, p.531).
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Why is it, Jaheshua (Jesus) never wrote anything down? He didn't want scribes manipulating his words into doctrine and dogma. He even warned that this is what was going to happen! Lo and behold! Along comes Paul and did just that (imho), whether intentionally or unintentionally.
Christ's Law is written in your heart. He told us that his kingdom is within you. I know the NWT says "in your midst", but even the Interlinear Translation says "within". That's just one example right there where some 'scribe' CHOSE to mistranslate in order to fit it into their own doctrine.
It's not where you go, but to whom you go.
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Did Jehovah destroy millions with a flood in Noah's day?
by fish in.
jesus seemed to believe in the story of noah's flood.
i wonder if god really drowned millions of people like the bible says for simply eating and drinking and not taking any note?
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Terry.....If I looked at the story of the flood that way, I would have to say that NO abortions were performed. Rather, a few thousand double murders would be a better description. After all, the fetus was not ripped out from a living breathing mother.
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Zealous JW nails description of the governing body!
by roxanesophia inrecently stopped studying, and stopped in the street to talk to a jw i met during my time studying.
we were sorta friends (well, in the small way jw's and worldlies can be) and here's how it went:.
him: "did you have a problem with someone?
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Good comeback, rox.
Anyone that says Jehovah's Witnesses are not programmed (brainwashed) are blind. Those exact words are regurgitated by every JW out there when faced with someone that chose to leave the organization......almost word for word.
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Continuing story of relative's funeral
by Lynnie ina couple of weeks ago i posted about how my uber witness cousin told me i wouldn't be welcome at my aunt's family gathering after the memorial service at the kingdom hall.
(i've been df'd for 35 year now).
he did invite me to the kingdom hall for the service but it was clear i wasn't welcome at the family gathering afterwards since i asked him flat out.
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Next time there is a family gathering with my cousin's sister and her family around and his family too I'm not asking permission anymore I'm going to show up and see how that flies!
That's how you do it! (Just hope "next time" is a wedding and not a funeral :-(