Changeling- Mr. Flipper here. I think from what I've noticed is that when you have young people of any race , black, white, yellow, brown , red, etc. I think that mainly people don't snitch out of repercussions of what will happen to them personally if they do snitch. We live in extremely volatile times and people in the ghettos as well as young gangs in other countries, no matter what race ,are into self preservation first and foremost to themselves and then preserving the gang because of how it affects, once again, themselves first. There is so much violence in gang related activity , and it trancsends racial boundaries and goes into socio-economic problems in which young people are trying to identify and fit in anywhere they can , because they have nothing else to hold onto. And I feel that is where parents of all racial groups have failed , because some parents are too self absorbed to be bothered with up and coming late teens and early 20 year olds. So we gotta give em' hope
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Just watched Anderson Cooper's report on 60 Minutes...
by changeling inon the topic of "snitching".
i was very troubled to hear that the "no snitching" policy is so pervasive in the african american community.
if this report is accurate, this policy is a rule that is followed fervently.
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What will be the Reaction to Barbera Anderson`s New CD?
by OUTLAW inwe all know the shit is going to hit the fan,with the release of barbera anderson`s new cd:"secrets of pedophilia in an american religion:jehovah`s witness`s in crisis".....the wbt$ is going to take a beating,so are the jehovah`s witness`s.....there are two reactions to consider..and..they are the subject of this thread................what will be the reaction of the wbt$?..and..what will be the reaction of jehovah`s witness`s?...outlaw
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Hello you all, had to chime in on the positive side again. If each one of us does what he or she is able to do to make known this molestation issue with the witnesses public, it might have more of an impact than some of you think. I know that some on this board including myself have sent letters to editorials in newspapers in our own local areas. If any of us are able to cause a stir in the media, whether it be written or visual, it may have an effect. Also, hunting street witnesses down and "witness" to them with copies of the news releases of the molestation settlements, informing them. When these witnesses come to your door, have the courage to speak out for what is right, go get your copies of the news letter about this stuff and give it to them ! If we go on the offensive then they will be forced to acknowledge that it happened! Go to a local kingdom hall incognito, and leave 5 or 6 or more flyers in their windshield wipers during their meetings! By constantly keeping this in the forefront, we won't let it get stale, unnoticed. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Just some ideas folks, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Hello CoCo, Mr. Flipper here. I was just talking with Mrs. Flipper about how is CoCo doing? I work today but on the way to work I'll give you a call. I feel for you buddy, we'll talk. Love, Mr. &Mrs. Flipper
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My fading brother(ex-PO) thinks he was marked this week!
by nvrgnbk inand he doesn't even post here cause he's afraid of his wife.
lol!.
she came home from meeting thursday night and told him they had a local needs about the difference between "willfully" inactive ones and "discouraged" inactive ones.
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Nvr- yeah but did your brother's wife say what to do if your willfully discouraged ? It can be all and the same. Jeez, now they are trying to classify or judge what kind of discouragement I have! Enough psychobabble already!! Good luck with your brother! Tell him to watch the lurking wife
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Not allowed to sleep over - is that weird?
by collegegirl21 inokay, so my guy and i have been together for 10 months and we usually are ok together.
but there is something that has been getting to me and i think its unusual, but please correct me if i'm wrong - he won't let me sleep over at his house.
and he hardly ever stays at my house, he's maybe stayed here 3 times in our whole relationship.
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O.K. College girl- Mr. Flipper here. Here's what I think. I think your boyfriend is the one who is insecure and he is doing what's called projecting in psychology. That is when a person makes you feel wrong or guilty about something that is really their own insecurity. Happens all the time. Perhaps this guy having been hurt perhaps in other relationships is afraid of getting emotionally close to you but does not want to admit it ,out of pride. So it's easier for his self worth to say that you are insecure and blame it on you. that way he doesn't have to face his own insecurities. He has some work to do on himself. You need to ask yourself if you care enough to help him see his insecurities , or do you get frustrated too much with him that you just want to cut your losses? It's certainly your decision to make, however don't let this guys immaturity or insecurities rob you of happiness you deserve. Give him a chance, see how it works, but if you try and he still does not respond, it might be time to move on. Peace to you my friend, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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What to do with old JW books? Want some?
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inmy sis-in-law is moving on to a new place, doesn't want to take any of her old books with her.. looking for ideas of what to do with them.
besides throwing them away (that's obvious!
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No thanks! Don't want any, not interested. ( Oh my god!, did I say I'm not interested!?) Bad householder, bad householder!!! Your first suggestion was the best. Just throw them away
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Is JWD a healthy place to be for those who have left the Watchtower?
by AK - Jeff ineveryday, that i read, write, think and talk about the watchtower society makes me think whether or not i have really left it for good.. .
i fail to see the good in reliving the past in this way.
the discussion board features individuals that have 3 to 6 years on the board and individuals who have left the organization more.
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Hey Jeff- I totally agree with what you wrote your friend. Having been raised in the witnesses from birth and getting out at 43 ,4 years ago , I've found this forum to be a place of learning and healing for me. Also it has been an education for my wife who wonders about my relatives still in it . It is also my goal to help as many as I can with situations and problems that I might have gone through so they can best navigate their way out of the witness organization with some shreds of their sanity left, so in turn they can heal and maybe help others. I get more respect and caring from members of this board than I ever did in the organization , unconditional caring based on respect of where we are in life, not conditional caring based on how supportive I am to a magazine printing company. So yes it's a very healthy place as long as people keep it in perspective for what it is, a support group to help others. We will all do away with the witness lingo in due time, takes some longer than others. But I stopped calling it the truth even before I left the org. Good thread Jeff
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Yes indeed, I experienced twisted.More from the elders than the rank and file members though. About 4 years ago when my methamphetamine druggie wife left me after verbally and physically abusing me throwing things down hallways in anger , the supremely intelligent elders told me that I should take her back if she wanted to come back to me. They said," Maybe you can just visit your kids away from her not at your house, when she's not there with you." Of course I told them to go take a flying leap, that I don't sacrifice my kids for anybody ever. That body of elders had it out for me from then on. Too bad for them, I moved to a peaceful place 80 miles away. Then left the org
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What will be the Reaction to Barbera Anderson`s New CD?
by OUTLAW inwe all know the shit is going to hit the fan,with the release of barbera anderson`s new cd:"secrets of pedophilia in an american religion:jehovah`s witness`s in crisis".....the wbt$ is going to take a beating,so are the jehovah`s witness`s.....there are two reactions to consider..and..they are the subject of this thread................what will be the reaction of the wbt$?..and..what will be the reaction of jehovah`s witness`s?...outlaw
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I think the governing body and watchtowers view of dealing with this will be spin control as some have said. Probably will send a special slide presentation for all visiting circuit overseers to show to congregations they visit of excerpts from the dateline show ,only of J.R. Brown stating that," We abhor sexual molestation of children and we will continue to educate our parents on how to protect their children". Then the circuit overseer will say ," Our organization is under attack friends from evil forces! But have no fear Jehovah has cleansed out the scummy moss from our midst! We need to trust the organization more than ever now." The gb will save face like always, and give reasons why.
The rank and file Jehovah's Witness? As Wednesday said if they are sitting on the fence and already have doubts or have been molested or personally have close family members who have been victims. Then I think those people will research it and leave the cult. But most of them have minds which are controlled and don't want to think for themselves. The org. is doing their thinking for them. It's called mental laziness. Most witnesses have it. But if even some leave it will have been worth the effort to push them that direction of the " rock on Barbara Anderson Class" !!!!
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Watchtower Changes- Pointed Counsel - what -speculate
by stillajwexelder inwe all know that the watchtower changes are supposed to allow more "pointed counsel".
this will be coming quite soon - i already have my september magazines - so only 6 more issues and we will be into the january 2008 issues.
what are some of the issues that may be addressed in this pointed counsel?.
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Stilla- I think they will get more specific in their naming things to avoid, and the penalties stricter, more firm. Thus the term, "more pointed " counsel. Probably they will have firmer policies on not associating with dfed people. Also as has been mentioned, warnings about apostate internet sites, any worldy wisdom, avoid it. Just read the societies publications or it's 50 lashes with a wet noodle. That kind of stuff