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  Good excuses for missing meetings and going out in service.

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i know a lot of lurkers are probably looking for good excuses and would like a list they could refur to..

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  Too hot or too cold - must work for every situation I have come across.
  
  I known a few who have had pets who were able to turn in a few good excuses. Have to get back to feed Tiddles, Rex will rip the house to pieces if he does get his walkies.
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  Good bye armageddon I knew ye well.

  by XQsThaiPoes in

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  after several talks i believe it is official.

  armaggedon is dead.

  we can no longer tell "interested ones about armegeddon, but can only tell them about the new paradise government.

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  eyeslice

  Surely, the current ambiguity must stem from the problems with 1914 doctrine.

  It has been over 90 years since that 'momentous' date. The majority of Witnesses at one time believed in the generation doctrine. Even the 'new light' on the generation doctrine is nearly 10 years old now and I would say few Witnesses understood it at the time.

  No wonder they are confused by Armageddon.
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  Which GB member Dying would make the biggest difference

  by stillajwexelder in

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  which gb member dying would make the biggest difference?

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  eyeslice

  There is no answer to this question as none of us here knows what goes on.
  
  But the Society cannot be turned round. If one or all the current GB where to go, do you really think that a new generation would immediately re-examine the blood doctrine, the 1914 position, the great crowd living on earth issue? Of course not, there would be no JW religion left in that case.

  IMHO, very little is going to change in a very long time. The Witness religion will continue to decline in strength, particularly in the West, but I cannot see anything that will change its core doctrines.

  Eyeslice
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  A religion with nothing to Celebrate

  by eyeslice in

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  how sad that the witnesses have nothing to celebrate.

  the more i think about it since i stopped going to the meetings, the more i feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.

  christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family.

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  eyeslice

  How sad that the Witnesses have nothing to celebrate. The more I think about it since I stopped going to the meetings, the more I feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.

  Christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family. Thanksgiving and harvest festivals celebrate the gift of food and provisions for another year. I want to celebrate my dad's 80th birthday in a few years time; not because as the Society would say it glorifies an individual, but to celebrate his life and what he has done and what he means to our family. I would like to re-affairm my marriage vows on important anniversaries every few decades.

  Sadly, the only religious celebration of the Witnesses - the memorial - is a somber affair. The hopeful message of 'Christ has risen' is never heralded but rather all we got was the doom and gloom of what awaits those who do not submit to Jehovah's (aka the Society's) will.

  Eyeslice
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  Careers in the Organisation?

  by eyeslice in

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  careers in the organization?

  how often have you heard young ones encouraged to make the truth their career?

  but what careers?

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  eyeslice

  Careers in the Organization?

  How often have you heard young ones encouraged to make the truth their career? But what careers?

  Of all the bright young male pioneers, a handful will make it to become COs. Less still will make it into any high position at the Bethels. And, if you are a bright ambitious young girl, there are virtually no options other than marrying an ambitious young brother.

  In all the years I was associated with the organization, I only know if one younger sister who went through Gilead as a single sister, and that was because they needed someone to be a new partner for an existing missionary sister. The existing missionary sister obviously had been through Gilead in the earlier days when pairs of sisters would be invited to Gilead. Nowadays, only married couples go to Gilead, so absolutely no hope for 'faithful' single sisters to carve out a career in the organization.
  
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  Exodus 23:14-17 You CAN celebrate Thanksgiving. !!

  by hubert in

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  it's right here, in the nwt bible.... .

  exodus 23:14...."three times in the year, you are to celebrate a festival to me".. exodus 23:16...."also, the festival of harvest of the first ripe fruits of your labors, of what you sow in the field.

  and the festival of ingathering at the outgoing of the year", when you gather in your labors from the field".. so, on the third thursday of november, we celebrate the "feast of the ingathering" by dedicating this day to giving thanks to god for the food and all the blessings we have enjoyed throughout the year.. it's right there in their bible, so why won't they celebrate it?

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  The more I think about it - the more I see that spirituality and religion should be about celebration - something that the Witnesses know nothing about.

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  "The path of least resistance..."

  by logansrun in

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  if i could have a dollar for the number of times i've heard an "older, experienced" jw talk about young-ones taking the "path of least resistance" and "going to the world" i would be richer than george soros.

  truth in fact, for some young witnesses, peer pressure does lead them to forsake the organization and follow (for them) what is the "path of least resistance.

  " my experience is that these younger ones generally have only one parent who is a jw and usually "weak" at that.

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  Logansrun - you are spot on. The path of least resistance is leading young ones in the organisation to not get an education, to marry too young and generally have no ambitions. What a waste.
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  "The Church That Forgot Christ"

  by metatron in

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  famous author jimmy breslin has written a new book called "the church that forgot christ".

  he stopped attending mass.

  after many decades because of his disgust with the catholic churches' handling of pedophile priests.

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  eyeslice

  My thoughts entirely about the Witnesses.
  
  They are totally confused about Christ.

  It seems patently clear reading the New Testament how the early Christians viewed Christ, he was the 'Lord' whose example and and commands they followed. The NWT translations ad-hoc substitution of Jehovah for Lord has the R&F in a total state of confusion. Ask the average witness who the 'Lord' is in 'always having plenty to do in the work of the Lord' and they will say Jehovah. How sad to claim to be Christian but totally miss the point.

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  A rock and a hard place

  by Pistoff in

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  i have been in this forum for 2 years now.

  i have slowed down in posting but only due to being very busy.. when i got here, i was looking for evidence that the child sex abuse scandal was the result of a few bad elders; when i found that it was not, but was systemwide, my brain snapped.

  i had emotionally left the hall in 1997, but just kept trying to reinvent myself and my faith.. i was determined to strip my faith down to the essentials, and build it back up so that when i went to the hall, pursued privileges and so on i was rock solid.

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  eyeslice

  I understand your situation - mine is very similar. My wife is still in although I never attend the regular meetings in the KH.
  
  However, I always respect her views and am not pushy with her. I attended the memorial this year and the convention and circuit assemblies. This is because I believe she deserves my support on these occasions. I make comments on what I/we beleived as Witnesses but I am never overly critical.
  
  Hope things work out with you.
  
  Eyeslice
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  Sunday's WT study at the local KH

  by Mulan in

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  my jw friend called me this morning to complain about the wt study yesterday.

  it was all about apostates.

  evidently some in that cong.

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  eyeslice

  I haven't been to a meeting in 10 months now (after being in for all my 50 years). It was quite a shock to many when I suddenly stopped attending. My wife however still attends regularly and is an exemplary witness.
  
  Interestingly, after this Sunday's meesting one sister came up to her and said "and just what can we do to get your husband back to the meetings? He is such a miss." I wonder what was really going through this sister's mind - has he turned apostate or is he just weak?
  
  My just smiled.
  
  Eyeslice