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  Ozzie's Weekend Poll #122 Why did the Blood card change?

  by ozziepost in

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  well here we are on a new server and it's not too bad, is it!

  apart from that, how's your weekend been?

  a highlight for us was partaking of a fine cabernet merlot.

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  eyeslice

  It's Ozzie's new idea for a poll - you have to guess the question and post your answer.
  
  My answer is "sometimes but never on a Sunday"

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  We walked out of my mom's memorial service

  by tyydyy in

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  my brother, my sister, myself, xena and those with us walked out when we were called aside and asked not to attend the reception after the memorial.. more details to follow....... timb

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  How terrible for you - I am sorry. Unfortunately, this situation happens only too frequently in an organisation that values dogma and rules over people and their feelings.

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  Are people intrinsically good or bad?

  by eyeslice in

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  2. bible

  one of the things we were constantly taught as jws was that the vast majority of the world are intrinsically bad; wicked enough to warrant destruction at armageddon.. last xmas, a film "love actually" (sentimental tat really but who says we don't need sentimentality occasionally) was based on the idea that everywhere people are in love and being loved.

  also, a couple of tv documentaries shown recently in uk, michael palin's 'himalaya' and ewan mcgregor's 'long way round' had these intrepid travellers visiting remote corners of the earth.

  it was striking just how friendly and helpful people can be to strangers.

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  eyeslice

  One of the things we were constantly taught as JWs was that the vast majority of the world are intrinsically bad; wicked enough to warrant destruction at Armageddon.

  Last Xmas, a film "Love Actually" (sentimental tat really but who says we don't need sentimentality occasionally) was based on the idea that everywhere people are in love and being loved.

  Also, a couple of TV documentaries shown recently in UK, Michael Palin's 'Himalaya' and Ewan McGregor's 'Long Way Round' had these intrepid travellers visiting remote corners of the earth. It was striking just how friendly and helpful people can be to strangers. This has been my experience too when we have visited remote places on our travels.

  So, what's the verdict? Are people intrinsically good or bad? What do you think?

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  Jackson's and Boy's Prints Found on Porn Mags

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041212/d86tr8sg1.html

  report: jackson prints found on porn mags.

  dec 11, 10:01 pm (et).

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  Whilst I believe in zero tolerance to child molestation and any form of abuse either physical, mental or sexual, I think we need to be very careful here.

  First, a person is innocent until proved guilty. Also, we do not know this guy as an individual or what happened in his childhood to make him turn out this way.
  
  Many here have had problems with the judgemental mentality of the JWs; let's not fall into that trap ourselves. We may have neither the talent or money of Michael Jackson but also we have not had the same background; "there but for the grace of God go I"
  
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  Out of Curiosity...Does Anyone Believe Anything They WereTaught??

  by confuzzed in

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  2. beliefs

  i think the question speaks for itself?

  while there is much we don't believe, there are some things we can't ignore.

  anyone agree???

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  I still believe that we should treat all people with diginity and kindness and equals.

  This is something I had to teach my children when we lived in India - a society that is often oblivious to its own social inequalities. It is a pity the Society teaches us this but often fails to practice it itself.

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  What Was Your General Impression of Elders?

  by minimus in

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  did you like them?

  hate them?

  fear them?

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  My experience is that as individuals, most are kindly family men. However, the dogmatic rule enforcers always rise to the top positions, e.g. PO, SO, etc. Also, with elders meetings there is a sort of herd mentality, allowing unquestioning obedience to the rules to override feelings of compassion for fellow imperfect humans.

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  Your favorite JW made-up word

  by dorothy in

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  ok, they have lots of "witnessy" sayings.

  but the best is the words they keep making up.. mine is "super-fine apostles" (from an awake a few months ago).

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  eyeslice

  Not a made-up word but a JW word with multiple connotations - privilege

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  Forget the JW Stats - Unicef report makes grim reading

  by eyeslice in

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  ok the 2004 jw service report is out / due out soon but so what?

  i gather it will show an increase of just 2% worldwide with many of the developed countries showing zero or practically zero growth.

  what a waste of all the time, effort and money putting into the "preaching work".

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  Ok the 2004 JW service report is out / due out soon but so what? I gather it will show an increase of just 2% worldwide with many of the developed countries showing zero or practically zero growth. What a waste of all the time, effort and money putting into the "preaching work".

  Even when 'in', always felt that the 'high ups' in Brooklyn had no idea of what the world was really like and the the Society wasn't doing enough to help in places like Africa, South America, India, Bangaldesh, etc. Here are some stats we should care about. And, remember when you read these stats, that the JWs like to believe that God only cares about a mere 5.5 million people, men, women and children earth-wide.

  • 640 million children do not have adequate shelter
  • In the 1990s about 20 million children fled their homes because of war
  • In just two years (2001-03), 15 million children lost at least one parent to Aids
  • Unicef estimates that nearly half of the 3.6 million people killed in wars since 1990 have been children.
  • Millions more were displaced by conflict, or even forced to take part as child soldiers.
  • Aids is a growing threat to children, the report finds - not just through HIV infection, but because millions have been orphaned by the disease.

  As Christ said; "suffer the little children unto me".

  Eyeslice
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  How rebellious did you get after leaving?

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  after leaving a controlling sect, it?s normal to want to live ?freedom?.

  what did you do to show that you were no longer under the influence of the watchtower?

  did you grow a beard, start having sex with whoever, start drinking, start gambling?

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  Not at all - they all think I am going back soon!

  I am thinking of growing a beard - though I did grow one once on holiday and come back and take the Ministry School and a few meeting parts for a week or two after. It didn't go down too well amounst the 'right wingers'.

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  Does dying scare you?

  by JH in

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  as jw dubs, we were sure we would live forever.

  when we left the organization, probably we all started to accept that paradise wouldn't be around the corner, and that we would probably die like everyone else around us.. how do you deal with the fact that you will one day die?

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  Yes. We would be abnormal if we didn't - it is part of our survival mechanism.

  What would shouldn't be frightened of is risk. To me we, particualarly in the west, have become so risk adverse that we are in danger of loosing something that makes us tick. I would much rather die in a road accident in Thailand or a ferry disaster in Indonesia than spend all my life worrying about dying and then at the end of it regret the things I did not do.

  Enjoy life - don't waste it.
  
  Regards

  Eyeslice