so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!
evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.
clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.
Where does it say in the Christian greek Scriptures that a sinner has to wait anything up to 12 months or longer who has been DF or ex Communicated from the congregation to be re-united within the congregation. ?
Doesnt that fly in the face of the parable of the prodigal Son ?
smiddy
i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?
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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .
The Watchtower and Awake magazines , along with the many other publications ,produced by the WTB&TS , over many years , such as the "Aid To Bible Understanding" , "Equipped For Every Good Work" , "Jehovah`s Witnesses In The Divine Purpose" the New World Translation of the Bible , the Kingdom Interlinear Of The Christian Greek Scriptures , etc,etc.
Have provided Jehovah`s Witnesses with an education that you could not find in any University of higher education anywhere in the world for preparing ones life in the coming New System , so close at hand .
The education JW`s provide since 1879 is next to none , and I mean none.
Why would members of the Governing Body need to look any further.? It`s all there for the taking .
smiddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteo_jp4aee .
I didn`t hear a word about Jesus or his Kingdom of a thousand years once in this talk
Jesus Christ has been King since 1914 hasn`t he ?
Isn`t Jesus Christ the one to bring on Armageddon ?
Is it just me or is their some confusion amongst JW`s when it comes to Jehovah God or Christ Jesus performing some act.
smiddy
well the ball has started rolling, gonna sue, can't go into to much detail.
time for some payback .
I hope you have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the long drawn out case they will make you endure by using theocratic warfare.against you.
They don`t give two hoots about their image , it is all about saving their money $$$$$$$$
Best of luck to you moley and Co.
If it`s not giving anything away what part of the world are you in.?
smiddy
this weeks book study lesson was on martha, the sister of lazarus.
the chapter in the "imitate their faith" book praised her for being "industrious".. the conductor at our congregation meeting was just positively gushing about how "industrious" modern-day jw women are.. he was so exciting, he could barely get the words out.
following is not an exact quote, but conveys the gist:.
Sorry , i havent read all the previous posts , but it stikes me that after 102 years of Jesus Christ rule , this is the best he can come up to ?
smiddy
yesterday, i was feeling very blue.
this is quite unusual for me, as i tend to be quite an upbeat, positive person, so spells of sadness or depression take me by surprise and are a real shock to the system.
you know, i don’t believe in “putting on a face” or pretending to be ok; this “fake it ’til you make it” malarkey has never been something i’ve liked.
Welcome FaD,
That`s a good topic , my niece is/was a talented musician , playing the Violin and the Piano , and was encouraged by her school teacher to pursue it as a career , and she had the opportunity to do so .
She was discouraged by the JW religion , married a DH ,witness ,now with 2 teenage sons , and beleive the Elders are now REALLY preparing JW`s for the GT.
It`s just so sad.and a wasted talent.
I still haven`t discovered what my passion is , I`ll probably be on my deathbed and then realise it too late.
Such is life
smiddy
i have been studying with the jw since june of 2016 and they say only the ones who make up the 144.
000 and can partake of the bread and cup.
is this true?.
or more Welcome Teddy
The JW`s always said that as they got closer to the Great Tribulation -Armageddon , that they claimed would take place before the 20th Century ended , the number of anointed would decrease to only a handfull left to go into the" New system"
We are now 16 years into the 21st Century and the numbers are still going up .
The numbers of anointed did drop to about 8000 and remained around that figure for about 35 years , from about the 1950`s -1960`s
Since the 1990`s that figure has now increased to around 14000 of anointed as of 2016 .
Go figure ?
Next time you have a study ask your JW conductor to " Please explain" ?
And when they talk about" New Light." , remember that is an excuse for previous failed prophecys , which are many .Far too many to list here , do more research before comitting yourself and regretting it for the rest of your life.
smiddy
hi.i have a 13 year old daughter that i still have for a limited time as she comes to stay about one night a month at present.the law here in australia is on my side in that the australian governments stand is that the child needs regular access to both parents .
i am currently arranging for mediation to have her more often .
her mother can not stand that i am living with another woman and doesn't want her here .
You say your daughter is 13 , and you are worried about how she will treat you when she is 18 ?
I think you are being paranoid , my bet is , long before she reaches 18 she will see the bullshit of the JW religion.
However , in between time you just need to show her how much you love her , and the fact that you and your missus have split up has nothing to do with her , it is in no way any fault of hers and that both of you love her , and want her to succeed in what she wants to do with her life and encourage her with her goals.
In the meantime
But also try to get her to think for herself , reason , and do personal research , and not just accept what anybody says , including you .
Try to get her to research things that may have a great impact on the rest of her life , and not just accept other peoples viewpoints .
You have a 5 year project ahead of you buddy , and I have faith in you that you will have a happy outcome .
Take care , and I wish you both well.
smiddy
i'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.
anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.
they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?
Don`t sisters of any age get a bad rap ? Lets face it JW`s organization exploits women to their own advantage .
And they do not give them any credit personally for their contributions which are many.
They give lip service to all the hard work women do within the organization , however in practice they give them no credit whatsoever.
Think about it : Can you name one woman of modern times who has been highlited in any publication the society has published since the first printing of the Watchtower , the Golden Age ,now AWAKE ? Since the 1879`s ?
If any woman has been mentioned in this time period it is not what she has accomplished on her own , but how she has supported her husbands service and he gets the credit.
While the Bible has it`s failings with giving credit to women overall ,it does make exceptions in both the OT and the NT and names women and their achievements.
That is not something you see in WT publications .
An example : Many women profess to be of the anointed ( 144000 ) to rule with Jesus in heaven for a thousand years. And this fact is accepted by the Governing Body as a fact. Yet no women can have a say in the running of a KH , let alone being a member of the Governing Body here on earth. ?
Yet they can rule over all mankind for a thousand years from heaven with Jesus ?
In Watchtower illustrations of the 144000 their is not one woman shown , everyone in the illustration of the 144000 has a beard., depicting males , how sexist is that .
Do Jehovah`s Witnesses honestly respect and honour females ? You be the judge.
smiddy
i've read in the watchtower, as well as observed personally, that 1% of the congregation gets disfellowshipped every year.
i'm not good at the math but i figure that it's 40% since 1975 (yes i know, they're growing).
i know that quite a few return but still, there must be a large percentage of disfellowshipped jws who will never return.
In the 1960`s -70`s the WT was reporting that 40,000 a year were being DF , mainly for immorality
smiddy
