Posts by lrkr

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2008 Annual Report on web

by Dogpatch in

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someone just sent me a link to the 2008 annual report.. haven't read it yet.

randy .

http://www.4shared.com/file/75568905/6c852737/2008_annual_report.html.

lrkr

I disagree that they are dishonest with figures. They are fastidious about reporting them.

However the system they use counts "peak" publishers that reported in any one month. If a publisher does not report for 6 months and then turns in all of his time for 6 months in one month that counts as 6 publishers (to make up for the other times when he counted as 0 publishers). So, if you create a push in one month for all of the Secretarys to "catch up" and get all of the outstanding time reports- the result is an artificially high number.

(If you want to call that dishonest- OK- but I dont think someone sits there and says- lets bump the number up 10,000, he he he)

We dont need to get into the discussion of how ridiculous the system of counting hours in the ministry is in the first place. Why not count hours that you loved your children? Or took care of the needy? Or did your job? or took care of your family? Such an artificial control mechanism to measure what should be a heart reaction.

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Please read condemnatory email sent to me and help me reply

by AndersonsInfo in

i received the following emails, one yesterday and the other today and thought you'll like to see an example of the positive and the negative messages i regularly receive through webmaster at my website, watchtower documents, llc, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.. .

here's the negative message:.

"i must say that after reading your biography, i am shocked.

lrkr

What, now I'm going to give you advice on what to write?? No way- you are a hero to me.

But...

I do love this statement

I mean, you were such a spiritual person, even working in the Writing Department at Bethel!

I guess would say- you know- being a "spiritual person" or having spirituality is about so much more than where you work. "Spiritual" is understanding how you relate to the universe. You remember how Jesus said, "By your fruits you will recognize them." Well, I found some real rotten fruit. Things that were being done in secret were nothing like Christ. Keep your mind open. Think carefully about the meaning of things. Just because you were raised to believe something, doesn't mean you can't ask questions. Questions are the start of growth.

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Do any of you in, actively try to get people out?

by cognac in

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however, sometimes i have a tendency to say to much.

one of these days i'm gonna get in trouble for it again... i just recently told my sil that the blood thing doesn't bother my conscience.

i told another close friend that i was relieved my husband was no longer reaching out to be an ms because i didn't want to have to deal with the pressure all the time.

lrkr

Those of you who have been successful- What works?? Especially with family?

Ps- Cogac-

Except with my husband, who is mostly out now

Congratulations on that!! Raising a kid with one parent in and one out can create a bit of stress.

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NEW KM style

by stillajwexelder in

the january km is completely different.

the style has been totally revamped

lrkr

My 2 cents:

This is another episode in the ongoing battle between the Writing Department and the Service Department. The Writing department prepares books, magazines, etc. and feels quite proud of their work (supress the gag reflex). The Service Department has always prepared the Kingdom Ministry (or Kingdom Service,or whatever) and its drab style, repitious and boring content, and uninspired graphics have always been a source of embarrasment to Writing, who feel that they should be preparing it (it is written after all). Service always jealously guarded the KM as the one printed product and meeting that they could control. I doubt that Writing took over the KM- but it looks like a compromise happened.

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JW kids are offically the brightest

by mtsgrad in

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"jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.

only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.".

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/743/united-states-religion.

lrkr

Tarde, but present.

Ditto

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-7-08 WT Study (EXAMINE)

by blondie in

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jehovahs beaming eyes examine all.

ot 8--achan.

ot 9 - solomon.

lrkr

I remember how after an article like this, the elders would comment to each other that a number of people would come forward and "confess" and they would have a busy few weeks with Judicial Committees.

Fear. Its the key to the WTS power.

Even now its hard to shake the feeling that someone is looking over your shoulder and will break in at any minute and drag you into a Judicial Committee.

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2 years out...yet i still don't feel like doin Christmas?

by oompa in

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and damm i love to shop...even on black friday.

i have a feeling it is just because i have never done it and it was forbidden...but so was sex once and i jumped all over that one!

is it because i do not believe jesus was not god nor his son?

lrkr

Looks like I'm the lone man out here. I love Christmas. I feel like I'm catching up on 35 years of deprivation. I love the suspense my kid feels before Christmas morning. I love that everyone is sneaking away from work early to do shopping and everyone backs off a little bit on the adversarial work related BS (if only for a few weeks). Were decoraing the inside of the house for the first time. My wife is paranoid that the gestapo will come and announce us DFd and that will end all of our family ties. I even like the Christmas music.

And no- I don't believe in or care if Jesus was born on 12/25.

Lrkr (of the sap class)

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I went to the Catholic Church and...

by Awakened at Gilead in

well i hope none of you think i went over to the dark side, lol!.

we (gf and i) went to see a presentation of handel's messiah.

i was impressed with the beautiful choir voices and the string quintet and other players.

lrkr

Good to see you-

Churches interest me very much. Because now, I can see them not as a den of demons- but an attempt by people (architects, sculptors and artists, usually) to express or experience the divine through a built space.

So much more interesting than Kingdom Hall architecture! And the music and sermons can be very interesting and uplifting also- they really are much more layered and interesting than the repetitious mind control drivel that you hear at the KH.

Not that I believe in God- but going to church can be an occasionally nice experience.

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From the offical WT website ... new light?

by sacolton in

do the witnesses believe that their religion is the only right one?anyone who is serious about his religion should think that it is the right one.

otherwise, why would he or she be involved in it?

christians are admonished: "make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.

lrkr

Lets simplify their answer:

Part 1- No we don't think you have to be a JW to be saved

Part 2- What about those who were alive before there were JWs

Part 3- If you live today- you could still become a JW

Conclusion- we don't really judge anyway

So.....we asked the wrong question- Do JWs believe that only people who are JW's (or never heard from a JW) when the Great Tribulation comes will be saved???

Answer- Yup.

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What's worse - celebrating Xmas or....

by passwordprotected in

....following a false prophet?.

jesus and the bible do not at any point mention birthdays, xmas etc.

however it does have clear rules regarding following false prophets.. .

lrkr

Worse- is ceeding control of your life to someone else based on an interpretation of 2000 year old manuscripts.