I'm just currently setting up a computer I just had repaired... I've got the magazine and I can scan the article and put a link to it on here... will probably do that tonight.
brinjen
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Awake August 2009
by bobld insome excerpts:"treated like a nobody".
"when officially sanctioned (disfellowsipped by wbts) discrimination can lead to such evils as ethnic cleansing(kicked out of the congregation).. "bigotry and intolerance (don't talk or help a disfellowshipped person, fired him from an elders construction company) where there are laws against discrimination".. the right education can (on this forum) expose the root cause of prejdice (disfellowshipping) and help us deal wisely with prejudice when we are victims".. 'prejudice may be sown by those( you can add those here) who deliberately promote warped views of other cultures (religion such as the roman catholic church)".. we should choose our associates wisely(if we associate with workmates or other religions we will be discriminated>disfellowshipped<).. don't get me started on p22 clergy-laity.. by the way i just read "blues brother wt 15/10/09-re d/f'd friends.now i am really pissed-off.. bob.
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Jackson's kids going to the Kingdom Hall: By The Ladies of The View
by Country Girl inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvbnjeixxa.
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brinjen
Didn't the children themselves already say they wanted to live with Janet instead? Katherine won't be around forever, I saw an interview with Jermaine the other day who said between all the siblings (and with quite a few of them already having raised children of their own) they're prepared for taking on the kids when Katherine can no longer look after them... there's hope still.
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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?
by flipper indue to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
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brinjen
I know Dinah,
I know.
It's beyond comprehension how anyone can defend an org that treats victims in that manner. An 8 year old girl was raped in my congregation. The molester wasn't disfellowshipped for it and the same night they gave a 'local needs' talk on the safety of your child at the KH, (which most took as a 'keep your brats under control' talk) he was wrestling with some young boys, holding them down between his legs in the kingdom hall, right in front of the elders.
For around ten years after I left, I thought I came from a particularly bad congregation... that the elders there were less loving than the norm and that if the WT society knew, they'd remove them. It wasn't until I came to sites such as this one that I realised how wide spread the problem was... that the elders in my congregation were no different than the norm and following standard watchtower procedure. I think that's what scares them the most about the net... and it should.
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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?
by flipper indue to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
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brinjen
Still reading through the thread and I came across Dinah's comment...
Brinjin had sent me a link to a youtube video featuring a teenaged boy (12-13 Ithink) who was raped. The elders blamed him for it as well. They said he got what he wanted and called it an act of homosexual sex instead of rape. I wish I could remember the title of the video. This happened in Australia.
The video is here...
I think it was originally aired in 2005 on the 'Sunday' program (can anyone else remember this?). The external embedding has been disabled so you'll need to double click on the video which will open it in another tab. It's a long video (runs for around half an hour) and I will say up front, quite a difficult video to watch. If you feel you can handle it though, it is without a doubt one of the best I've ever seen. I was never molested personally but I have to say I was bawling my eyes out by the time it was finished. I'm ashamed that I was ever part of an organisation that treats people this way.
for BigTex, AllTimeJeff and everyone else who was affected by the policies of an organisation which cares more about protecting itself than those who need protecting.
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Something Big Is Happening To the WT Mag.
by metatron ini looked over the aug. 1 public watchtower and noticed the same changes i observed previously.. plainly put, it appears that they have simply run out of things to say and so are just filling up printing space!.
they devote 4 full pages to a bible reading schedule that could have been easily condensed into a couple sentences.
they have the same large graphics and typeset that eats up printing area.
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brinjen
I happen to have that Watchtower and the August issue of the Awake magazine. A couple of weeks ago, I happened to bump into a couple of witnesses, both women. The older one pretty much gave me the magazines and walked off... not kidding.
I noticed the same thing... most of the articles appear as 'fillers', the QFR doesn't even appear as though it was finished before it was rushed off to the printers. The Awake appears to be filled with more fluff than ever.
Yep, just a matter of time before they combine the two me thinks.
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As a JW Did other Witnesses Annoy you by Condemning " Worldly Music" ?
by flipper ini know i got bothered by all the self righteous music police who would condemn me or others for our awesome record collections from early years as a teenager .
several experiences were really quite odd .
one brother came up to me saying i was wrong to listen to the moody blues " nights in white satin "!
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brinjen
bonnzo you're right... think I need a new thinking cap
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As a JW Did other Witnesses Annoy you by Condemning " Worldly Music" ?
by flipper ini know i got bothered by all the self righteous music police who would condemn me or others for our awesome record collections from early years as a teenager .
several experiences were really quite odd .
one brother came up to me saying i was wrong to listen to the moody blues " nights in white satin "!
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brinjen
And on the topic... yep, got lectured BIG time for Madonna ( I still remember my mother looking like she was about to suffer a heart attack when she saw the album cover for 'Like A Virgin' ). An elder who was at our congregation but had since moved apparently lectured another young witness girl into not liking her anymore... she was "immoral". A sister in my congregation said she must be posessed by demonz cause no one would be so "obsessed with sex" otherwise.
Aussies may remember the song 'Solid Rock' by the band 'Goanna'... my JW grandmother chucked a fit when she saw the video which was just a live type performance of the song.
For reference...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV_0Mf9YcyA
And of course there was the sister (that I mentioned in another thread) who forbid her children from listening to Julian Lennon's 'Saltwater' because she thought the line 'we are a rock revolving around the golden sun' was a reference to evolution... yeah, she wasn't too bright.
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As a JW Did other Witnesses Annoy you by Condemning " Worldly Music" ?
by flipper ini know i got bothered by all the self righteous music police who would condemn me or others for our awesome record collections from early years as a teenager .
several experiences were really quite odd .
one brother came up to me saying i was wrong to listen to the moody blues " nights in white satin "!
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brinjen
Oompa... that sounds like George Thorogood and The Destroyers 'Keep Your Hands To Yourself'.
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Breaking News - Russia Close to Banning JWs Entirely YouTube Video
by cognac inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-qy14yqx-0 - i'm not sure if i attached this right.....
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brinjen
Great video thanks for sharing Cognac.
Message to Jehovah's Witnesses - you ARE in the real world. Deal with it , get used to it ! The new one ain't comin' ! You done been lied to ! Stop abusing your own people and outsiders !
Says it all really.
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Hello there...
by IronHill inhello everyone.... honestly i dont know how to start my first post.
i have been an avid reader of jwd for some time now, and now have decided to say hello.
i was raised as a witness, and have been baptized for 17 years.
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brinjen
Welcome Ironhill (and fiance).