I don't know how you feel about this, but personally, I can't bring my kids at the hall at all anymore. There is way too many things I don't want them to hear.
StephaneLaliberte
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Meeting Today
by lambsbottom inme and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .
felt great!
gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!
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Someone I know wants to go back to the meetings
by StephaneLaliberte ini am presently fadding out and a person that i know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting.
how can i let him know that i think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?.
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StephaneLaliberte
I am presently fadding out and a person that I know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting. How can I let him know that I think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?
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Interesting quote!
by StephaneLaliberte in*** w00 5/1 p. 17 par.
17 hear what the spirit has to say ***.
as we establish a pattern of listeningto the word behind usas it is provided through the scriptures and the faithful and discreet slaveand as we heed the reminders of our bible-trained conscience, jehovah will bless us with his spirit.
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*** w00 5/1 p. 17 par. 17 Hear What the Spirit Has to Say ***
As we establish a pattern of listening to ‘the word behind us’—as it is provided through the Scriptures and the faithful and discreet slave—and as we heed the reminders of our Bible-trained conscience, Jehovah will bless us with his spirit. The holy spirit will, in turn, enhance our ability to receive and understand what Jehovah tells us.
If that is not claiming to relay what Jehovahs says, I don't know what it.
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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off
by Faithful Witness inrecently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
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StephaneLaliberte
The very problem with the JW is the constant avoiding of direct conflicts - wearther they are with others or with themselves. Right now, the siter of FW needs to face these conflicts and sending an email to say lets stop communication is avoiding these conflicts. She needs to face them head on and in her sisters very face.
Jesus didn`t tell the pharases his thoughts by letters.. he told them right in their face in front of every one. She needs to stand up and take that pressure. -
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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off
by Faithful Witness inrecently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
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StephaneLaliberte
If my sister sent me a message like this, I would drop whatever I am doing and go see her and make sure we have a final face to face talk about all this.
In short, what are the two most important commandments? Love God and your neighbors. How can you honestly say you fully live in love and give it properly if you don’t even show love to your brother. Actually, shunning is going the other way, it is taking actions NOT to demonstrate any love. It is working against love, the very thing that Jesus held as the most import thing of all.
What she is proposing is to kill the love between you two. If she truly wants to go to such extreme, she should be convinced, beyond any reasonable doubts that this is the right action to take as in the end, God will Judge people by their actions, not by their belonging to a group. And of course, all of our actions should be motivated by love. Is she convinced that such action is proper display of love?
Personally, I would not let her go easy, I would request that she explains it all to me in a very clear matter. As a last resource, I would make her reflect on the very real possibility that her kids will not stay in the truth and will end up taking contact with me. Where will she stand then?
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Ironic: g73 2/8 p. 4 The Wisdom of Admitting a Mistake
by 4thgen inwhat ya all think about this?
of course, admitting we made a mistake is the right, honest and decent thing to do.
it is also the course of wisdom.
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StephaneLaliberte
I love your quote 4thgen!
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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??
by minimus inyears ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.
a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.
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StephaneLaliberte
NVR2L8 I don't remember the name of that brother. besides, being in a fade out mode, I must remain a little vague. :)
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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??
by minimus inyears ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.
a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.
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StephaneLaliberte
There was a disaster in Lac Megantic (Canada, Québec) where a train exploded downtown after midnight and killed 50 people. One of the worst desasters in Quebec`s history. Now, many of the victims were at a local pub that night known as "La boite à Chanson".
In the introduction talk to a circuit assembly, the brother told the story of a JW father and his son who stopped and paused right in front of that pub around 11:30 after their working hours (cleaning) and thought about going there. However, they deemed it would be wiser to go to bed at a regular hour and be fresh for service the following day. Well, Jehovah obviously blessed them.
I wanted to walk out right there with my family. However, due to my ongoing fading-out effort, I had to take it all in like a woose.
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I feel nostalgic and for a second, even felt like I wanted to go back.
by StephaneLaliberte intoday, i feel nostalgic about the good time i had in the truth.
i was thinking about the district convention coming up this summer and i have to honestly say that i miss being there and hearing about some really good bible advices.
you know, about how to be a better husband and father, how to be balance with entertainment or money, how to priorities love and despise wickedness.
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StephaneLaliberte
Thanks Punkofnice, I'll add that book to my library: Combatting Cult Mind Control. by Steven Hassan.
and yes Theredeemer , I think that being surrounded by people who nod their heads has a lot to do with it. Its a feeling a belonging, a feeling of being in the right place. And in the end, its all feelings, its not doing the right thing.
As for someone to tell me stuff I can gather, well, I like discussing things, and very often, some of the most enlightning research I have done in finding the TTATT was triggered by comments I heard at the front. To me, its entertainment. Some people like football, I like religion. Its just like you told someone: Why don't you go play hockey instead of just seeing people play it. Religion, I research and like people talking about it.
So you may be right, perhaps I should look into other source like prechers on tv and radio who tend to be much more mainstream.
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I feel nostalgic and for a second, even felt like I wanted to go back.
by StephaneLaliberte intoday, i feel nostalgic about the good time i had in the truth.
i was thinking about the district convention coming up this summer and i have to honestly say that i miss being there and hearing about some really good bible advices.
you know, about how to be a better husband and father, how to be balance with entertainment or money, how to priorities love and despise wickedness.
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StephaneLaliberte
Today, I feel nostalgic about the good time I had in the “truth”. I was thinking about the district convention coming up this summer and I have to honestly say that I miss being there and hearing about some really good bible advices. You know, about how to be a better husband and father, how to be balance with entertainment or money, how to priorities love and despise wickedness. I miss that. I really do.
But then, I think of all the times they say that they are God’s sole channel and how everyone else is wicked. That those who question them in fact question Jehovah himself. That anyone not researching information within the boundaries of their controlled media are “after their own selfish desires”. And above all, that you should, without blinking, ignore and treat as dirt anyone they tell you from the podium “Person so and so is no longer a witness”. Don’t question anything, be humble and accept Jehovah’s arrangement in which you now must hate this person.
I just must say that I find it, for the least, weird, that I have to keep reminding me the bad things to overcome this nostalgic feeling.