Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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The Judicial Committee videos in english

by confusedandalone in

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not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

The Judicial Committee videos in english

by confusedandalone in

jw
friends

not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

DATA DOG, I seriously doubt that the news would do anything about this. We are outraged because we understand all the double-talks in there and why they are doing things and even making certain gestures. We are incredibly expert on this topic because a great deal of us, like myself, were born into it. Some people teach piano to their kids and they become world renowned musicians. We are though JW theology since infancy and don't even realize just how knowledgeable we are on the topic.

A news representative would not understand even half of what is truly happening here.

A quick example of this: Would the news rep understand that they are teaching elders to be two at all times with crying sisters as it has lead to adultery in a number of times? Or would they understand that the elders don’t invite her because perhaps they could see her as a bad influence for their family? Or would the news rep understand that it is viewed very seriously to associate with none JW and thus, this weighted heavily in their judgment?

I feel it will be inevitable one day for me to face such a JC and when that happens, I will be more then happy to call them out for what they are: Pharisees.

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The Judicial Committee videos in english

by confusedandalone in

jw
friends

not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

StephaneLaliberte

I’ve watched the videos and though it was difficult at times, I watched them through to the end.

If I put my JW’s hat on, I see nothing wrong with these videos; they are text book examples of what has always been discussed in various ways in talks and in print.

However, if I think outside the JW’s set of frame, I am left with only a great deal of concern. Just the way that they talk doesn’t sound real. It sounds like: I am applying counsels from the Theocratic Ministerial School to modulate my voice, take pauses, make gestures, eye contact, etc, to make you feel like I care when I care even more about rules and procedures.

For instance, the woman says she is depressive. They talk about Job and give her passages to remember and send her off her way. What about just inviting her over to your house to eat with your wife and kids? Informal conversations around a table with a glass of wine tend to be much more productive and joyful. Instead, they are planning to follow up on her by sending elders on a shepherding call. Don’t they know that such visits are first and foremost stressful? There are alternatives like: Ask women in the congregation to take her out. Make small gifts; use her as an example on the stage, etc.

There are so many things wrong here that I could write on for another few pages…

And as for the JC, they’re decision was mainly based on a book of rules that was not in the bible. You cannot postpone a JC so as to let them time to fix the situation… Just why is that? Really? Why is that a rule?

And they kept stressing that this was not a court of law! Of course, this is an inquisition! It’s not about helping. How is disfellowshipping going to help him?

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PRINCE shows on the cheap

by smiddy in

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friends

according to an article in todays paper prince plans to charge fans as little as $11 for tickets to his coming london shows.. the pop superstarsaid he wanted to keep ticket prices low and work smaller venues with his all- female band 3rd eye-girl.. "this is a new band ,people are getting something new" prince said.. hhhhhmmmmm.

smiddy.

StephaneLaliberte

If he did half time shows at the conventions like he did for the super ball... I'd go! That man, even as crazy as he may be, has soul!

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The 'Old Light' and strange things from past jw publications thread

by TimeBandit in

i've been reading early wtbts magazines and have been finding some pretty weird stuff!

this thread is dedicated to such weird findings.. .

the golden age april 2, 1930 p.446 :.

StephaneLaliberte

Also, to be honest, I think what I experienced today was pure shame. Complete shame at the idea that I was ever fully invovled with a group like this when they could have pushed ideas like that. Shamed of having been deceived for soo long.

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The 'Old Light' and strange things from past jw publications thread

by TimeBandit in

i've been reading early wtbts magazines and have been finding some pretty weird stuff!

this thread is dedicated to such weird findings.. .

the golden age april 2, 1930 p.446 :.

StephaneLaliberte

I was not aware of this quote until this morning... it sent me in a shock. As much as I want to keep a minimal level of respect for this religion, how is it possible to just overlook quotes like this.

It just makes me very very sorry for all people in there truely believing they are better then everyone else.

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

StephaneLaliberte

Also, how could the entrance to the garden of eden be garded by swords? Why would it have been invented or created back then?

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New light -----> beliefs clarified

by fastJehu in

the wt library cd contains a list of "beliefs clarified" from the year 1872 until today.. you can reach this list as follows:.

- search for beliefs clarified.

- double click on publications index.

StephaneLaliberte

Very good! thanks!

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Meeting Today

by lambsbottom in

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friends

me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

felt great!

gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

StephaneLaliberte

I don't know how you feel about this, but personally, I can't bring my kids at the hall at all anymore. There is way too many things I don't want them to hear.

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Someone I know wants to go back to the meetings

by StephaneLaliberte in

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i am presently fadding out and a person that i know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting.

how can i let him know that i think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?.

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StephaneLaliberte

I am presently fadding out and a person that I know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting. How can I let him know that I think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?