Maybe I wasn't as much of a hardcore believer as I thought, but for some reason I just knew I would get old in this "system".
Posts by R.F.
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13How did you measure how close the end was ?
by JH ini recall buying a new car and thinking, "this car will still be around when the end comes" .
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then i recall when they were building the molson center in montreal where the montreal canadiens hockey team would be playing, and i was thinking to myself, "they will never play there.....cause the end will come first".. .
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Tell Us About Your JW Father If You Had One.
by new boy inwe are great friends now....but he wasn't much of a father growing up.. worked all the time...we went on few vacations....pretty much pussy whipped my my nazis jw mother.. he never did believe in the whole jw thing.
he just when along with it, for my mothers sake.. she never did respect him for not being a "spiritual head" and pretty much let us kids know about it.. i, like my mother became very self rightious and judgmental.. i wished now he had just came to me just once and said "keith maybe the jws are not the people you think they are.
" but he was to afraid of my mother to say that...even though he knew it to be true.i would have never believed him....back then....but it would have planted a seed.... .
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R.F.
R.F.; I cant remember where i read it, maybe a second hand quote from some higher-up in the ORG, but iread that they PREFER ex-military due to their training to be compliant with authority. i believe this to be true.
I've never heard that one before, but I will say that i've known alot of ex-military JWs over the years. The local congregation is packed full of them.
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Tell Us About Your JW Father If You Had One.
by new boy inwe are great friends now....but he wasn't much of a father growing up.. worked all the time...we went on few vacations....pretty much pussy whipped my my nazis jw mother.. he never did believe in the whole jw thing.
he just when along with it, for my mothers sake.. she never did respect him for not being a "spiritual head" and pretty much let us kids know about it.. i, like my mother became very self rightious and judgmental.. i wished now he had just came to me just once and said "keith maybe the jws are not the people you think they are.
" but he was to afraid of my mother to say that...even though he knew it to be true.i would have never believed him....back then....but it would have planted a seed.... .
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R.F.
My father is also ex-military, and i'll just say he has some issues. He left the military to become a JW. He was very strict on my siblings and I when we were growing up. Now that i'm grown, i'd say still that he was way too strict on us. I definitely didn't have what you would call a "normal" childhood because of some of the ways he had us go about life. Thank goodness for my mother who intervened as best as she could so that we can have a bit of normalcy. My relationship with him now is okay. I love him, but sometimes I hate him.
I'll leave it at that.
R.F.
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Fading From the Witnesses- How Hard Did Your Family Try to Bring You Back?
by flipper ini have been a fader now for 4 years , and at this point my witness family pretty much leaves me alone in that they don't try to push their beliefs on me anymore !
at first they did, the first 6 months or so.
my daughters showed me a video of korah talking against aaron, etc.
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R.F.
Thank you Mr. Flipper.
Im just so glad to have one parent that isn't active at all in the organization, and the other parent being considered a "spiritual weakling" in the congregation. I know things would be extremely difficult if they were both hardcore.
R.F.
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Would the blood ban be lifted if more men were dying of blood loss?
by Gill inthe watchtower did not wait too long to make factor viii a conscience matter for haemophiliac men.
i believe it happened inthe late 1970's but i'm sure someone would correct me if i am wrong on the date.. but, the blanket blood ban continues and women are still dying in childbirth unncecessarily around the world because they are jws.
if the boot were on the other foot, would blood transfusion be a conscience matter by now to keep jw men safe?.
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R.F.
I highly doubt that would happen if their was more life loss occuring. In their minds, all the lives would be lost for the sake of staying loyal to Jehovah.
R.F.
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Don't leave Jehovah's table
by oppgirl63 ina couple of nights ago my roomie gave me a dvd to play.
she said it was from her sisters.
well i jump up and put in the dvd thinking it was from her physical sisters (they are all hotties).
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I also forgot to mention the tidbit in the talk on higher education. It was demonized once again by it being said that by going to college you're showing no trust in God. He went on to mention some brothers writing to the Society and telling them their desire to send their children to college. He in turn referred to it as "returning back to Egypt" aka "the world". What rubbish!
Even though I was still an active and hardcore Witness at the time, it still made my blood boil.
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Fading From the Witnesses- How Hard Did Your Family Try to Bring You Back?
by flipper ini have been a fader now for 4 years , and at this point my witness family pretty much leaves me alone in that they don't try to push their beliefs on me anymore !
at first they did, the first 6 months or so.
my daughters showed me a video of korah talking against aaron, etc.
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R.F.
After I walked away 6 months ago, I was hearing it from my dad everyday about the need for me to get back to the meetings. As of now, he hardly mentions it.
My mother, who doesn't go to meetings, has started asking me about it now. Even yesterday when we were talking she asked me what needs to happen in order for me to get back to the KH.
Others in the congregation used to call me every now and then....now I hardly hear from them. I suspect I will hear even less from them as the months roll by.
I really think that everyone, mainly my family, think that i'm going through a phase that i'll snap out of suddenly. I'm just wondering how things will turn out when they realize I have no intentions of going back.
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Crap... Elders coming over tonight for a pep talk
by still_in74 inwell its finally here........ the day i get the pep talk.. considering i havent been out in service for 6 months and i never comment because i cant parrot the wt, and i havent been to the book study in 2 months cause the revelation book makes me nausious........ (that why no more revelation weekly reviews --- sorry oompa!
yet when i talk with bro's and sis's i seem to be the one in the know, i am the one that knows what is going on in the org and am up on the "new light".
i am "so smart".
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What is your situation? Are you married, single, live alone.......?
I'd personally do what carla suggested and go out and do something, avoiding them at all costs. Then once again, that depends on the situation.
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This is the day you were born...
by Princess Daisy Boo inso this is the day that princess daisy boo entered the world, 30 years ago.. last night, my mom called and in the course of the conversation she say something along the lines of " thirty years ago today i was in labour - how does it feel to be almost 30... and then carried on about something random.
so my question to you all is this... how do your dub family or friends acknowledge your birthday, or do they?
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R.F.
Happy Birthday!!!
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How many years before you left did you realise it was not the truth?
by jambon1 ini was only in for 10 years.
however, i never feel that i 100% believed it all, even at the point of baptism.. i think after the initial period of 'love' shown on the part of the brothers, i must have only been a baptised brother for about 4 years when i knew it was all wrong on so many different levels.. i remember a sister saying to me "once they have got you under the water, that's when you see the real way they treat you".
it all changed after baptism.
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R.F.
I always had doubts, even before I had gotten baptized. I always opted to "wait on Jehovah" to clear up any doubts and to straighten things out. It wasn't until 6 months ago that quickly was deprogrammed of it all.