Posts by lalliv01

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A little bit taken from the Osho Darshan Diaries - a Rose is a Rose

by AK - Jeff in

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this bit of wisdom is worth consideration imo - particularly in the case of those who have been deeply programmed by religion to think in the collective.

http://www.messagefrommasters.com/beloved_osho_books/darshan_diaries/a_rose_is_a_rose_is_a_rose.pdf.

but to begin with, feeling less guilty is very very important.

lalliv01

The thinking up to now has been this – that the individual exists for the society so the individual has
to follow just what the society says. He has to fit with the society. That is the definition of the normal
human being – to fit with the society. Even if the society is insane, you have to fit with it; then you are
normal. Even if the society is neurotic and you try to be sane, you will be thought neurotic because
the society is the majority. They have power so they can make anybody feel guilty

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People who subscribe to this type of thinking are people who believe in slavery--Their own enslavement-- sad.

People should be free to pursue their own life, liberty and happiness; never initiating force against others nor permitting others to initiate force against them.

Respectfully, lalliv01

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Freewill - does it really exist?

by eyeslice in

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paul wrote in romans 7:19;"for what i do is not the good i want to do; no, the evil i do not want to do.

this i keep on doing.. so is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes), .

our nurture or both?

lalliv01

So is there such a thing as free will

I read somewhere,(Ayn Rand,I believe), that stated that man has free will and that that free will

is: whether he, the individual, chooses either to use or not to use his mind, all his other decesions are dependent

on the use of that free will. That is the only thing man is free to do, to use or not to use his mind.

I agree with that thought, in case anybody cares?

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Are Fridges for Christians?

by Satanus in

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dispite their popularity, christians should rethink their stand on fridges.

firstly, they used by jesus and first century christians.

neither did god's chosen people of old use them.

lalliv01

Satanus, Thanks for the ~~meat,~~ er, food in due season.

Are you one of the "chosen" ones? LOL

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What kind of FALSE PROPHET is Jehovah's official mouthpiece?

by Terry in

the false prophet is not like the mistaken scientist or misguided philosopher---just a person in error.. the false prophet is either a deceiving imposter or a self-deceived victim of his own pathology.. any who would identify themselves as "prophet" is laying claim to a special agency of communication beyond the powers of mere mortal man.

what credentials must such a person obtain?

what makes them special above all others.

lalliv01

A truly true false prophet?

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Can the US prevail in Afghanistan?

by nvrgnbk in

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invaders of afghanistan.

many foreign forces have attempted to conquer afghanistan and its predecessor states.

few have succeeded.

lalliv01

The U.S. might win by force and constant enforcement (occupation) but they really will never win those peoples hearts and minds, I think.

We are dealing with the "Taliban" and what all of that stands for. You might as well, IMO, ask if the U.S. can EVER make JW's become a

democratic organization? I see those taliban as fanatics who will willingly die for their faith or kill their family members for dishonoring their

faith, their customs.

If you're not a devout Moslem then you are part of satan's world. You, having being a JW, know how we knew the world was bad and destined

for destruction, something to be hated and avoided. The taliban are even worse than JW's, even though I'm sure there are JW's who, even now,

would stone their parent dishonoring offspring if the society were to say it was okay to do so.

So, no, those people do not want democracy. They will fight to the death for their theocracy.

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Whadya think? Is this a good "read"?

by ESTEE in

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here is an excerpt from my book .

currently in editing.

this was the hardest chapter to write, since it has some technical explanations.. whadya think?.

lalliv01

Yes, it is a good read.

I dislike stories, or movies, with sad endings. Don't give it away, but I hope things end up well for the family after going through

such stomach wrenching existence, and a sick "head" of household.

I'm anxious to find out the end of this intersting tale.

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Are you a HOPE-er or a DO-er?

by Terry in

i want things to be the way i want them.

i want the wind at my back if i'm going for a stroll.

i don't want the sun in my eyes.

lalliv01

Crossing the T's and dotting the I's and doing your homework are first in the mix.

Something like: "whatever a man soweth, that shall he reap." (Gal.6:7) I truly believe that.

Some supernatural being is not going to do for us what we can do for ourselves. The angel told Peter,"Gird yourself, bind on thy sandels..........cast thy garment about thee, and follow me." (Acts 12:8).

Surely that angel could have simply snapped his fingers and miraculously, Peter would have been clothed and ready to go but no, the angel was not going to do for Peter that which Peter

could do for himself. So yes, you gotta do what you gotta do, there is no way out of that.

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Today is my 4 YEAR ANNIVERSARY on JWD!! Can't believe it!!

by Terry in

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four freakin' years!.

look at the number of posts!

i can assure you very few of those posts were short, pithy, truncated or otherwise carefully considered sententious sentences!

lalliv01

Terry, congratulations. I always enjoy reading your posts....you've got a razor sharp brain.

I enjoy the exchanges between you and other "sharpies" on this board, keep'em coming.

lalliv01

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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

by Terry in

on what basis did god so love the world?.

the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.

god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".

lalliv01

What has never lived does not exist. What does not exist cannot die.

I agree with what you are saying,Terry, but then, who was God concerned for in the Garden of Eden? Mankind had not been born so why the need for redemption? Who are you saying God "so loved" if mankind did not yet exist? Or did God love non-existent imperfect humans then? Why be concerned with everlasting life for creatures that could not die since they did not exist?

Why love what does not exist? Very close,maybe,to what you're asking.

I think that what God loved is what did exist, HIM. God loves himself, His name, His reputation. He is spoken of as doing things,even things He is reluctant to do, for his "names-sake." I think God loved mankind "so", or "because" of his name, his honor,his reputation.

Now,I'm being serious here and am not trying to trick or play with you: no "tomfoolery" here, at least not intentionally.

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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

by Terry in

on what basis did god so love the world?.

the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.

god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".

lalliv01

God ___gave____but got back what He gave.

Yes, Jesus returned whence he came but more than Jesus human existence was sacrificed. Just like the case of first Adam,God could have provided the second Adam, Jesus, with a perfect mate created from one of his, Jesus', ribs. So, when Jesus died so did all those human lifes he could have sired. Imagine a world where perfect humans would be living alongside us, imperfect children of the first Adam.

So we can say that an entire race of humans, the children that Jesus could have sired, were sacrificed to ransom us, the imperfect children of Adam.

Somehow, that doesn't seem just, does it? I guess the would-be descendents of Jesus already had their armageddon, back in 33 C.E.