march 15, 2010 watchtower, p. 27, par.
16 ("one flock, one shepherd"):.
"paul also helps us to understand that those with an earthly hope do not partake of the memorial emblems.
"When does the Lord 'arrive'? When he comes to take the last of his anointed bride class to their heavenly home."
So, is the WT saying that if some of the anointed survive the BIG A into the new system (paradise), not yet
taken to heaven, then JC hasn't arrived yet? The thousand year reign of JC will have commenced even though He
hasn't arrived yet? That's what I'm understanding they're saying.
any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?
wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?
(or the justification for it, anyway?
Hello all, so much interesting info. Do you remember how, as JW's we all looked forward to the "end", armageddon?
We weren't afraid of it's "so,so near" approach, we wanted it, the sooner the better (nutty). Well, I believe that these
Iranians are as fanatical about their beliefs as are JW's, they don't fear "Al-Malhamah Al-Kubrah" (armageddon) any more
than JW's fear it.
When people are hurting,suffering, they long for the end to come and for "God's kingdom" to come and bring paradise. I
believe these Moslems believe armageddon will occur in the vicinity of Syria, Damascus specifically, and that the Messiah
will return at that time at which time He will destroy the unbelieving armies of Gog og Magog (the western powers) and
restore peace and brotherhood to the planet.
So, remembering how I used to think as a JW, I think Iranians are thinking, BRING IT ON, we want armageddon to start, NOW!
So, how do you deal with such a people? They also expect persecution from enemies of their faith, even death. Damned if you
attack them, damned if you don't. Now, since I don't believe the end of the world is just around the corner, I think something,
some action, should take place soon, by the U.N., all the nations of the world, not a particular country.
lalliv01
but i don't write this for sympathy.
actually, i just thought you all would like to hear how i am doing, esp with a little space now between me and the borg.
(its been 3 years).
ATJ,
I alway's enjoy reading your posts. They are,to me, reasoned,logical and well thought out--and
easy to comprehend, thanks. I don't think you want to go back "up the river", "the big house", "the hive."
"Jonathan Livingston seagull's" can't abide being in a cult, they need to be free and to H&!! with
forced servitude and falsehood.
All my best to you,
lalliv01
if the wts likes to brag about anything other than themselves and how great they are, it is their boasts about their triumphs in the united states supreme court.
they brag about how much the people of the united states owes them and their god jehovah for their part in championing freedom of speech and religion in america.. we've seen all of those supreme court cases paraded about in various wts publications, haven't we?.
i recently found one of them that is nowhere to be found on my wt cd rom.
Brother Chaplinsky had a set if big ones.
I can't stop laughing. Good one, Farkel.
lalliv01
i'll be the first tangible deity.
my worship services will be held in any local bar that has pool tables.
i'm a god of the poor though, so i'll keep your financial situation in mind.
Is that "banjo" music I hear?
Oh tangible one, you sure you don't like pig squealing?
here are two ethical posers:.
i. would you rather your children grow up to be successful or happy?
explain your answer.. ii.
Farkel, good thread.
First: Happy. Happiness,as someone once said, is the moral purpose of life--it is a barometer to measure how well one is doing
in the pursuit of life.
Second: Cheat. None of us, I truly believe, would be here if our ancestors hadn't cheated. I wouldn't be here in this great country
if my poor parent's hadn't cheated. I personally try very hard not to cheat or lie, but, sometimes.................
caught the very end of the commercial.
they were giving away a brochure called "science and creation".. i wanted to figure out which group was specifically behind the ad, but failed to remember the toll free number in full.. i know for sure that it was 1-800-???-dawn.
just curious to know who is advertising in my area..
I read RR's comments at "bible students.net". Just saying, is all.
Very interesting, Ray, very interesting.
lalliv01
i am new to the group.
i joined to get some feel, at least, for how i might improve my lifelong relationship with my jw wife.
i am lifelong roman catholic.
Alternator,
You seem like a very reasonable and calm individual to me, I'm glad you and your wife love each other and look out for each other.
"Your comments about a JW-nonJW relationship have me thinking that I have it better than most" (Alternator).
I say, continue to hold your spouse close and tight, make her want your love forever and I hope all will
end well.
It's good to have you here , let us know how things turn out.
i was riding to work yesterday when i observed a female driver who cut right in front of a pickup truck, causing the driver to drive onto the shoulder to avoid hitting her.
this evidently angered the driver enough that he hung his arm out his window and gave the woman the finger.
'man, that guy is stupid,' i thought to myself.
I once waved off a female driver with the back of my hand as if to say,"go away,
you crazy nut!" What she did next was so funny I couldn't help but start laughing,and she
saw me laughing--she was so angry at me that she stuck her tongue out at me. I felt badly
for having annoyed her, I wanted to tell her she won that one.
I know she saw me laughing, I hope she got a laugh out of it as well.
Made my day, thank you, Mouthy!
