On this site I found a forum to hear the doubts and questions that I had suppressed for years being discussed openly, intelligently and with no fear. This site, JWFacts and Freeminds gave me the courage to leave. Even if all of my friends shunned me, I knew I was not alone. I am hoping to see increasing numbers muster their courage and click on the dreaded JWN site, listen to the conversations and have their eyes opened, despite the death threats from the GB for doing so.
whoknows
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Is The Internet The Worst Thing That Could Happen To The Organization?
by minimus inthe witnesses try to demonize the internet.
in your opinion is the internet the biggest problem for the watchtower organization?.
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Please Join in Celebration! My DFed brother is coming to dinner!!!
by Open mind inwe're killing the fattened young bull and having osso bucco (spell?
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i'm going to the airport right now to pick up my long-time dfed, over 20-years shunned, gay older brother!.
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whoknows
My husband and I found that our non-jw siblings (the "worldlings") were totally forgiving, accepting, supportive and kind to us when we finally left the org, despite our being neglectful towards them at times over the years. How unlike another group I'm thinking of that claims to be the most loving on earth. I'm very happy for your and your re-connected family. It has been a great joy to us to become closer to our real, unconditionally loving, family.
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Reunion with my family
by wha happened? inwhen i became a jw back in 1989, i had already alienated my family.
this lasted until a few months ago.
when mom got sick, they were there.
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I'm glad something good came out of something sad. I can relate to feeling I have to make up for not being there for my family as I should have been. It's wonderful to have a second chance!
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Worlds Apart
by Dagney inoh man!
my g/f said she saw it on the sundance channel last night!!.
http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.
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whoknows
Thank you Thirdson. I called Blockbuster here in Los Angeles and they had two copies.
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To you what was the Watchtower Socity's biggest lie ?
by The Almighty Homer inyes, what was the biggest lie that you can think of, that persuaded you to realize that they were not who they said they were ?.
for myself it would have to be the year they picked as the destruction of ancient jerusalem 607 bc.. i have an assumption this was done purposely to coincide correctly with making 1914 an a important pivotal date.
in human history, which by all factual evidence it was not.. unassuming and deceiving manipulation for self marketing purposes.
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The deliberate choosing and twisting of the parable of the Faithful and Discreet Slave to confer power upon themselves over the other slaves and the abuse of this power.
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New "apostate" here! Recent WT study- 'We may ask you to do something that may not understand' (basically- DO IT)
by 20+wastedYRS ini will get to the big shocker that i read within the last year or two in a wt study article, so please bear with me... i am new to this forum and have been reading postings for several days now, and can relate totally to many of the issues that many ex-jw have.
i was raised "around" the truth and although my parents were never "dipped", they wouldn't allow us to celebrate holidays or stand for natl anthem (not that i care now).
so i basically had many of the pressures and stress that witness kids had growing up, but with no spiritual support, as we attended only a handful of meetings while my parents studied when i was 5or6.
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whoknows
Welcome to the board. There are many people here who can relate to your story. There are many in different stages of realizing the truth about the Truth, some faded out gradually, some disfellowshipped and some still active. Please enjoy the complete freedom to express your thoughts and ask questions. This be the place!
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The disconnect effect
by truthseeker inthis is kind of hard to put into words.
i have faded for over a year now and have moved on with my new life.. i still have friends and family who are jws that i care for very much.
i don't say anything to them about jws and they don't know i no longer believe and miss meetings.. i am in contact with them because they are nice people even though they would shun me in a heartbeat if they found out about me - but - this is where it gets tricky.... i find the more things i do that are in opposition to jw rules and regulations, nothing bad mind you, the more disconnect i feel towards my jw relatives and friends.
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whoknows
My husband and I were fading for two years and during that time we had a few social encounters with jws who didn't seem to know that we no longer believed. They spoke to us like we were in the club. I found it extremely uncomfortable. I just could not longer handle the secret code language and holier than thou attitude towards the rest of humankind. Now we are df'd - so no problem!
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A question for all ex jws AND JW's here, btw I'm new too
by EndofMysteries inso far quite dissappointed from what i've seen.
this is very very important, first i"ll address the non/ex jw then i'll address the jw's (jw's scroll down if don't wanna see the first part).
i see so many who have concluded that it was not 'god inspired', a lot of what is being done, and their conscience told them that many things conflicted with jesus teachings and the bible.
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It was reading the Greek Scriptures (or New Testament) with an Interlinear translation, Wycliff Bible Commentary, bible dictionary and a few other translations of the Bible that caused me to come to the conclusion that what was taught as "true Christianity" at the Kingdom Hall had very little in common with what is taught in the Bible.
Just a few thoughts:
Jesus said:
"call no man leader, for one is your leader"
"No one can come to the father except through ME" (not a man made organization that claims that only through association with them can salvation be had)
Jesus said (to paraphrase) "If they tell you I am in the mountains (invisible) DO NOT BELIEVE THEM". Jesus taught that when he returned EVERYONE would see it.
The book of James that we were hit over the head with so often at meetings (faith without works is dead) is about CHARITY - material giving to those in need! What if Jesus really meant what he said when he said if you feed the hungry, take care of the sick, etc. you are doing so to me?? Those charitable works are the ones that the evil churches are accomplishing, not Jehovah's Witnesses.
Consider that the whole tone of the NT is that salvation comes only through faith in Jesus, you can't earn it, it is a gift. Men cannot give it.
By the way, I left two and one-half years ago after much study and contemplation, and I am still married to the same man for 36 years and I am basically the same person I always was - except that now I do not believe that the way to solve the earth's problems is to slaughter 6 BILLION men, women, children and babies.
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"To Verdener" DVD: Now available at a Blockbuster store near you?
by inkling inif anyone has yet to see the excellent danish jw-themed film .
"to verdener" ("worlds apart"), check your local blockbuster!
last time i was in there, i saw the dvd on the shelf, with a .
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I agree with OTWO - it won't win the best picture academy award, but it is totally worth seeing and sharing with ex-jws and any jws that are open minded enough to watch it. There is SO much to identify with and so many cultish aspects of the WTS that are undeniable. I'm calling Blockbuster right now.
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Evil lying Manipulators OR Captive Duped Slaves Duping Others (or some of both)?
by OnTheWayOut ini see many threads that address this issue, but i still don't have a clear thought on this.
so i want your help.. the governing body misleads the members- no doubt.
they do change some of their history to make the wt organization look smarter or better-guided by "jehovah.
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whoknows
Amazing information - bttt