Thank you for that Aunt Bee. The Governing Body certainly does maintain their control through fear and intimidation, and in the process alienate their followers from the concept of a loving and forgiving God.
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Martin Luther Sounds like He's talking about the WTBTS in the 1500's!
by AuntBee inusually i'm just a lurker.
i'm a chrirstian concerned for a jw teen, and wanting to understand what he's going through, and where he's coming from i don't usually post, but this morning i came upon this while reading from the sermons of martin luther , volume 1. he's speaking about luke 21:28.. "the godless fanatical preachers are to be censured who in their sermons deprive people of these words of christ and faith in them, who desire to make people devout by terrifying them and who teach them to prepare for the last day by relying upon their good works as satisfaction for their sins.
here despair, fear and terror must remain and grow and with it hatred, aversion and abhorrence for the coming of the lord, and enmity against god be established in the heart; for they picture christ as nothing but a stern judge whose heart must be appeased by works, and they never present him as the redeemer, as he calls and offers himself, of whom we are to expect that out of pure grace he will redeem us from sin and evil.. such is always the result where the gospel is not rightly proclaimed.
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Which would be easier to defend, JWs or Mormons?
by undercover inwhenever i ponder on the beliefs and practices of the mormon church, i wonder how anyone can belief such rubbish.
even when i was an active jw i looked at mormons as down right kooky, what with their special underwear, the book of mormon, the american indians being isrealites, the tablets, etc, etc, etc.
i was glad as a kid that i wasn't mormon because at least as a jw we could drink sodas.... even after i discovered that i was in a f'd up religion and made my way out, i still see mormons as so out there, that there's no way you can defend their beliefs, yet so many people become or remain mormons.. when i compare mormon beliefs with jw beliefs, it seems easier to disprove or discount mormon beliefs vs jw ones.
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whoknows
At least JWs can have a Tangueray Martini with two olives (very dry) if they want one.
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some quirks of the DC talks...
by metaspy inhere is a run down of some special things i noticed at the district convention.. i probably took better notes now than when i used to go as a jw.. however, my notes now are mostly "stupid" things that they say on stage.
saturday.
symposium: directed by god's spirit in our ministry - speaking the word of god with boldness.
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whoknows
I guess I have post traumatic stress syndrome. I started getting queasy reading the review. Must stop.
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From the fringes to the outside...
by Amy10606 ini am new here, i thought i would give a short overview of why i am here.
i was baptized at 14. even at that age i had a lot of questions that were shuffled aside by the elders or just avoided all together.
i really felt like i was doing the right thing, i was born into a large family with a suprising track record of no immediate defectors.
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whoknows
Welcome Amy! There are many here in their first year or so of venturing out. A little traumatic at first, but it is really good you and your husband are on the same page. Life will get easier and better as you go along. It takes guts when the rest of your family and friends are in. The board is here to support and listen -
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MOUTHY'S 81st Birthday
by BenV inmouthy, is today your 81st birthday?
i saw on a post you wrote -- and it said birthday!
(don't know how these things work?).
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whoknows
Happy Birthday Grace! Perhaps we should just turn those numbers around 81 to 18. You are so young at heart.
btw, for the very first time I just sent a birthday present to someone today. It felt good. Strange, but good.
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The hardest question for Jehovah's Witnesses ...
by sacolton inexplain how jesus chose the "slave" in 1919?.
how can they answer?.
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whoknows
Hey - I LOVE the Great Pumpkin defense. I will use this! Sincerity is truly the least of the virtues.
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Dinner with Friends
by sweet pea injust wanted to post that besty and i had some guests over this weekend: dncall, whoknows and dagney.
it was a real pleasure to spend time with you - you are great people and very brave to have taken a stand and put your money where your mouth is.
it's been very painful coming to the realisation that everything we believed in has been a fairytale and as a result of calling "emperors new clothes!
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Count us in!
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Dinner with Friends
by sweet pea injust wanted to post that besty and i had some guests over this weekend: dncall, whoknows and dagney.
it was a real pleasure to spend time with you - you are great people and very brave to have taken a stand and put your money where your mouth is.
it's been very painful coming to the realisation that everything we believed in has been a fairytale and as a result of calling "emperors new clothes!
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A special thank you to Sweet Pea and Besty for taking a leap and inviting us over. It was a wonderful evening, Sweet Pea is quite the hostess with the mostest! Dagney and my husband share many friends in common. I think we all felt that we had been good friends for a long time. It does mean so much to talk to people who really understand. As Sweet Pea said, now we all have to keep the hope that our dear friends in the Borg will see the light. In the meantime, we are truly enjoying our new friends. I love dinner parties!
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I'm terrible at friendships!
by GoddessRachel inhere is where i cry and feel pity for myself: .
i'm terrible at keeping up with my friends.
i don't call them often enough, or i make an effort in the beginning and then i let it slide.
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Rachel
I can relate. Its not that I'm anti-social, but I am not good at the phone thing, I would much rather talk in person. If I can't do that, I try to compensate with email and I send cards often too. I find email comfortable because it doesn't demand an immediate response from anyone and seems less intrusive. I know sometimes it would be nicer if I just picked up the phone, but I have some weird intimidation about it. I guess we all have our little ids.
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Overcoming deep depression....success stories??
by oompa inguys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
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whoknows
So many good suggestions. First of all, we really, really feel for you. You have a lot of courage to take this stand re the "religion" without your wife, losing all social contact, and possibly, your marriage. This last year has been extremely difficult for us even though my husband and I are fading together. We have lost all of our friends. I would only add that it really helped me to contact some people who were close friends but were df'd in recent years so we had had no contact. Most I had not spoken to in over seven years. My husband and I have been able to rekindle these relationships and it has been really helpful. They have all been so happy to talk to us again. Is there anyone like that in your life? One guy we hadn't had any contact with in 24 years, and he was very happy to hear from us, plans a special trip to visit. These people really understand where you are coming from, plus you have some history with them. I realize as I read my post that this may be difficult if your wife won't have anything to do with them, but perhaps you could meet them somewhere yourself, or just re-establish contact somehow, by phone or email. Just remember that we all think you are a funny, smart and brave guy, and we care about what happens to you. I wish we could have you over for dinner. I am a pretty decent cook. If you are in L.A., let us know.