"When I die, I die. It's all over, that's all she wrote."
thanks challenging, i now have to listen to the 'if i die, i die' release from virgin prunes before going out tonite. :)
do you feel more inner peace now or when you were serving as a jw?.
no matter if the teachings were wrong, or not exact, i had more inner peace when i was "in".. i remember when i got operated for a hernia, and had to be put asleep, while i was a jw in good standings.
i knew that god would resurrect me if ever something went wrong, and i didn't wake up from the operation.. today if i had to undergo an other similar operation, i'm not sure i'd have the same inner peace.. i think that no matter what religion you practise, no matter if it's false or not as false, you develop this inner peace, that may only be an illusion..
"When I die, I die. It's all over, that's all she wrote."
thanks challenging, i now have to listen to the 'if i die, i die' release from virgin prunes before going out tonite. :)
do you feel more inner peace now or when you were serving as a jw?.
no matter if the teachings were wrong, or not exact, i had more inner peace when i was "in".. i remember when i got operated for a hernia, and had to be put asleep, while i was a jw in good standings.
i knew that god would resurrect me if ever something went wrong, and i didn't wake up from the operation.. today if i had to undergo an other similar operation, i'm not sure i'd have the same inner peace.. i think that no matter what religion you practise, no matter if it's false or not as false, you develop this inner peace, that may only be an illusion..
there's been some analogies to the Matrix film re: this.
i think part of the 'inner peace' inside the jws is the social structure of being coddled by 100's or 1000's of jws for being in good standing. i couldn't walk through a district or circuit assembly without knowing tons of people and meeting with a 100 or so people on a weekly basis, in the jws, is kind of like a dysfunctional support group.
and, i was reproved as a teen and remember practically being shunned and looked down upon until i got my priviledges back.
obviously conditional love b/c of propaganda.
its good to be on the other side and i'm personally still grappling with my inner peace....and when i was 'in' and was getting tapped on the shoulder and asked to the back room so much that i had a vague sense of dread going to every meeting with 'what are they going to try to pin on me now?'
OT, some liberal do-gooder asked if i still supported big tobacco by smoking. i told her i didn't smoke, but if i did i would steal my cigarettes, and not from big chain stores like safeway and wal-mart, but from mom and pop stores b/c i support corporate america and the small business owner needs to be wiped out.
i get sarcastic when people ask me stupid questions....but she was actually shocked i didn't smoke and i asked if i looked like a smoker and she said yeah. then i told her about someone saying they don't like smoking pot and said that they didn't want to judge my pot smoking though.....and i don't smoke pot....which also blew her away and the other person i was talking to.
so, i guess i look a little menacing or something? in a smoking, druggie, when does your daughter turn 18 kind of way.
btw, to clarify i have nothing against smokers, drug users (who can handle their sh*t) or people wanting to date 18 year olds.
i would do the ebay thing. it's good to have those old books on hand to see if the wtbts uses a bit of word switching when quoting themselves to make their history sound better.
and, i'm not sure how extensive the library CD is. does it include the red youth book of the 70's that said 'masturbation leads to homosexuality', or do they just keep the "latest light" and make it the Young People Ask book of the 80's?
i ordered the read Youth Book on ebay since people conveniently forget some of the idiocy in that book.
but, if everything is documented on the cds now and the info isn't being altered, a fire might be cathartic. :)
i have got some recordings of the judicial comitee hearings that i have been to over the past year.... it shows what a bunch of idiots they all really are.... if you want me to email them to you let me know... .
if you also know of any good software to shorten it tell me as one of them is too large and needs cutting down.....
Audacity is good.
I use an old version of SoundForge for editing.
i wanted to post this research i did that helped convince my husband a few years back that it was o.k.
to celebrate christmas, despite the objections he was taught by the watchtower.
hopefully this will help others out there ease their conscience about this particular day.
aren't wedding rings even of pagan origin.
let's all wash up to the elbows, but only on certain issues, and keep ya guessing and in constant repetative study so your mind will continue to be numbed enough not to question us.
we own as much property as donald trump, when should we cash in?
desperate to make a convert i'm amazed how witnesses behave.
like my wife we were on vacation, witnessing, we met a guy who was visiting his mother but came from our city.
after talking for a while my wife tells him which suburb we live in and leaves our home phone number telling him to call me when we get back and i can take him to the meetings.
in the late 70's early 80's, the elders would drop me and my friend off to territories to work, we'd be 9, 10, 11 years old. just the two of us.
thanks mom and dad, can i get reimbursed for some of this therapy?
hey guys i made a new blog spot called "new light".
i am going to be doing little essays on jw's and the bible.
nothing new of course and on many other websites, but i kind of want to try my hand at writing.
i would put this paragraph first:
Jehovah’s Witnesses especially have a very “your either for us or against us” approach to religion. If you leave and are happy, to them you are against them. They often quote certain scriptures to get away with ignoring you on the grounds of apostasy. Lets look at some scriptures Witnesses quote on “apostasy”?
i wouldn't have the definition of apostasy as it is, maybe a quick define a few sentences into the article.
but, that paragraph is your star paragraph and imo should be your lead, as they call it. i do the same thing all the time, my lead ends up being my fifth/sixth sentence and i only see it on my final draft.
best of luck on your blog and your writing.
anyone who has read this book have any comments?.
i'm ordering it right now, coppola mentioned it briefly in his q&a in today's ny times magazine and it seems like a great read on religion.
thanks HS, i have a feeling once i get rolling on eliade's books i'll want to devour every single one of them.
have noticed an inevitable trend in australia.
(probably is all over the world).
as a jw u can't have sex before marriage right?
when i was 'in' there was even more to it than that.
once you had the hots for anyone, as a guy, the father of the witness girl would be up your ass with 'what are your intentions', the elders would be up your ass with all these minute rules, especially if you're in good standing, and it really messes with your head.
one dumb-ass elder, when i was 19 and had only dated a girl a couple of times, said we were ready to get married and didn't understand why we weren't engaged yet. same elder married his wife when he was a teen and cheated on her, leaving his daughter and wife, and is dfed now. me, i waited years later and am still married to the right person.
the pattern was repeated with other girls i dated, everyone was up my ass for a couple of months and when they felt "safe" that i wasn't going to dump her in the back of a pickup and drive to mexico, we'd finally date a couple of times and i'd realize i wanted nothing to do with the girl.
it's hard to see beyond when you're so young and supposed authority figures are pressuring you from all sides.
for some reason, even when i was young, i always knew, just have sex and get dfed for a year if you need to, but don't get into a marriage that's doomed before it has started. don't know where that reasonable thought came from when i was in the cloud of propaganda, but it was there and saved my ass....then blossomed into getting out completely.
anyone who has read this book have any comments?.
i'm ordering it right now, coppola mentioned it briefly in his q&a in today's ny times magazine and it seems like a great read on religion.
anyone who has read this book have any comments?
i'm ordering it right now, coppola mentioned it briefly in his q&a in today's ny times magazine and it seems like a great read on religion.