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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  All I can say is that I am a zealot for Jehovah and that his word burns in me like a fire sometimes... / You Know

  [bolding mine]

  During those admittedly intermittent occasions, may I suggest...
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  JW's who didn't SEE it, will HEAR about it!

  by D8TA in

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  they won't hear about it from you, and not by me.. by who?.

  the angry person opening the door during "field service".

  i think the "do not call" list is about to get a tad longer.. another problem, associated with the issue of victims within the organization, is that the public is now in jeopardy of contact with unreported pedophiles.. whether the jehovah witnesses like it or not, the box that they live in still resides in within our communities.

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  Reason with them that by taking such publications, that they are supporting an atrocity…Maybe after a few months and profits are down…

  Unfortunately, D’ I’m not certain it works that way. Very little currency is made actually ‘selling’ the Watchtower and Awake! or whatever, to the householder, whatever.
  
  The ‘publisher’, or significant ‘publisher’ with the cash, such as a Dad or Mom for example, donates cash for the mags, for the kids and themselves or the pet parrot ‘pining for the fjords’.
  
  If there happens to be fewer ‘publishers’, those remaining will be encouraged to order more WTBTS printing press fodder and obliged to take up the slack ‘donation’ wise.
  
  Regardless of whether the publications are for personal use and eventually end up in a Laundromat or the trash, the WTBTS systematically collects Jehovah’s cash, tax-free.
  
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  Letter Read at service meeting

  by scary_goat2000 in

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  letter was read at the meeting tonight during the service meeting.

  probably because of the dateline thing.. several points brought out, cant remember them all:.

  1) sexual abuse is bad.

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  She went ballistic, and people all over the U.S. are doing the same =)

  lol - Aracnichimp', After re-entry, I suspect, she (your mom) could no longer be considered a potential WTBTS revenue generator (Jehovah's Witness)?

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  Email Dateline NBC

  by Flip in

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  below is the page, if you feel so inclined, to email dateline nbc and thank them for airing the public scrutiny.

  i suspect dateline needs encouragment, other than sponsorship revenue, just like anyone else and it may serve to be beneficial in the future.

  watch for 'jane and stone' half way down the page, and look for talk back.

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  Below is the page, if you feel so inclined, to Email Dateline NBC and thank them for airing the public scrutiny.

  I suspect Dateline needs encouragment, other than sponsorship revenue, just like anyone else and it may serve to be beneficial in the future.

  Watch for 'Jane and Stone' half way down the page, and look for talk back

  . http://www.msnbc.com/news/DATELINE_front.asp?0ct=-341&ta=y
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  HERE'S WHAT JW ELDERS DO TO LITTLE GIRLS

  by crawdad2 in

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  they question her, in private, all alone with her.... then the questioning keeps breaking down the little girl, so she crys, and they watch, making her describe every detail of the sex act......while she crys..... they want more exact details of where here tounge was............. while she crys....... then they go to a room for 5 min and come back and tell her she doesn't have 2 witnesses, and that she should just keep quite about the matter.. and if she says anything about the matter at all, she will be punished........."then"... she has to go "home" and face "daddy" the "petophile"...... daddy is kind of mad.... do you get the picture yet????????????????????????????????????.

  meanwhile daddy is asked to give a part on the assembly.. and little girl has learned to not tell-on daddy........ever again, or she might "die".

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  I try not to 'high-five', but well said, X', thank you. bttt

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  YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  by COMF in

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  sock it to 'em, bill!

  praise the lord, the truth's coming out!

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  Well done! Dateline, Well done!

  Although I'm sure the WTBTS is sighing 'relief' that Dateline let the Organization off the hook relatively easily.

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  Could I Make It As A Professional Gambler?

  by gilwarrior in

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  as i have mentioned before, at the end of august i plan on moving to las vegas.

  however, i am wondering if i could acually make a living as a professional gambler.

  i recently bought a cd-rom game that has many casino games.

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  Gil', the only sure way of leaving Las Vegas with a small-fortune, is start with a large-fortune. -anon-

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  Extraordinary increase...?

  by MacHislopp in

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  as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.

  now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .

  publishers for 1972 i.e.

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  Is vast majority of the JW’s , aware
  of the real figures?

  Are you kidding, Mac! I'm a former Jehovah's Witness who's now free to research any source and even I'm not aware of the stuff you present...until now, of course.

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  Wired.com article on allegations against WTS!

  by peterstride in

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  hey, .

  i looked quickly through the posted topics, and didn't notice anything on the wired.com article, so my apologies if someone has already posted the following link:... .

  http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,52484,00.html.

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  "This is what the Bible directs," Semonian said. "If someone is writing or causing dissension, we would meet with them -- two elders (congregation leaders) usually -- and discuss the matter. If indeed, he were causing dissension as the book of Ecclesiastes describes it, we'd 'readjust the man in a spirit of mildness.' You'd calmly discuss it together so you can bring them back to their senses. There is no automatic excommunication. We want to keep our members."

  Sounds like a unilateral definition of discussion and dissension to me.
  
  

  …You'd calmly discuss it together so you can bring them back to their senses…

  If the table was turned, what recourse does the man have if he actually had a point and the ‘thinking’ of those running the ‘judicial hearing’ required an adjustment? None, and few if any revenue generators (uninformed Jehovah’s Witnesses) would ever know if the man had a valid grievance or not.

  Sounds more like a behind closed doors, employee/management hearing prior to the announcement that the former individual is fired from a Corporation for potentially exposing the Corporation of burying dangerous engineering practices than a cosmically sanctioned, loving arrangement designed on the behalf of and for the betterment of 'lost' mankind.

  Theocracy - a parasitic dictatorship that thrives, buried deep inside a democracy.

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  DATELINE - WHY THE CONFUSION ?

  by Siddhashunyata in

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  people are posting tuesday may 28 / 7pm, 8pm, 9pm and 10pm as start times on the east coast.

  why is this being done when the dateline website shows 10 pm.

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  Actually, if you live in Newfoundland it's 10:30PM.

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