Harcore JWs are always in a hurry to condemn all music and replaced it with KM songs that many of them cannot sing in the first place. JW's condemnation of others is okay in their books but when others condemn their destructive teachings, they complain their rights are being abused. What a bunch of hypocrites.
icyestrm
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"The Sound of Music" not theocratic enough?
by Frequent_Fader_Miles inone of the local congregations is having a farewell "concert" for their co who's leaving.
of course, the book study conductor felt obligated to take control by appointing himself screener of all performances before the event (how shocking!
what's wrong with the song as is?
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Information Release
by JWD Temp innote to admins: this jwd account may be deleted after this post.
i have created this temp account as a further attempt to remain anonymous with this posting.
an internal resource has revealed that the following has been discussed at jw hq: .
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icyestrm
Only someone who is lying is afraid of what others have to say. This is a desperate organization who is deploying nefarious schemes to control its members even more.
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ANNOUNCEMENT: "Special" Awake! for November. Confidential ;-)
by BFD ini was asked to post this by a paranoid jwder.
i'm an elder and have stated as much on this board.
call me paranoid, but i'd rather not stick my head up and say "hey bethel monitors, come after this guy!
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icyestrm
The special awake should be retitled 'Can You Trust the FDS?' and throughout this rag will be 31 pages of mind damaging garbage
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Coquitlam To Ban "Front Door Pests" But Excludes JWs
by Justitia Themis inhttp://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=ae1d8b8a-8085-421e-bca4-9dc6f11c1e16&k=99813.
coquitlam to ban front-porch pestspushy gas pedlars targeted, but not girl guide cookiescheryl chan, the provincepublished: thursday, july 05, 2007door-to-door salesmen are about to get the bum's rush from coquitlam.. council voted unanimously on tuesday to ban door-to-door sales following complaints about the pushy sales tactics of some natural-gas marketers.. the bylaw when it is introduced in september will exclude charitable causes like girl guide cookie sales, political campaigners and religious organizations such as jehovah's witnesses.. email to a friendprinter friendlyfont: ****"it's only meant to apply to commercial for-profit door-to-door sales," coun.
richard stewart said yesterday.. "unfortunately it means a summer of seeing door-to-door sales of natural gas.. "i believe door-to-door discussions of religion are protected constitutionally.
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icyestrm
There was another poll done that not too many people know of unless they are from the Lower Mainland. The radio station asked 'would you want the ban extended to include religious groups', not surprisingly, last I heard there was 91% in favor of that ban. Living in Coquitlam, I can see this coming. People are perturbed at best. Many of the townhome complexes have 'No Trespassing' and that means nobody other than residents and their visitors can go in. The territory is often converted to phone. Don't you just love it when enjoying a well-cooked dinner and the phone rings? In Canada we need the do-not-call registry and with clear punishments such as fines to those that don't abide to it. People just need to make a big sign 'No Jehovah's Witnesses on the Property'. JWs are like slugs that harm the garden.
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the Pioneer Service Application
by R.F. ini remember when filling this out some time back that one of the questions it had was something along the lines of......... "do you trust in the "faithful and discreet slave" and recognize it as god's sole channel of spiritual truth?.
someone correct for any needed changes to that question.... why ask prospective pioneers this?.
is there any other reason or something pertaining to any legal ramifications as to why they would ask this?.
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icyestrm
I remember vaguely that question when filling that application out when I was still intoxicated with spirits after a night of drinking with the guys.
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What Do You Think of Lying?
by Sarah Smiles inhow many people trust elders?.
today an elder said,"elders lie because human imperfection!".
i said,"so your excuse is human imperfections for elders to lie, yet they disfellowship people on human imperfections all the time.".
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icyestrm
I work for a brother one time and he was a MS. He lied to the government about his buisness taxes. Still was able to serve as MS even after the government found him out. Straight down from the GB, DO, CO, elders, MS, R&F lies are commonplace. In my own eyes, I don't see much difference between those in the organization and those that they deem 'wordly'.
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How to open a JWs mind
by jwfacts ini posted a similar article a year ago, but have cut it down by half, so thought it worth posting again for those that are looking for a place to start discussing the fallacy of watchtower doctrine with family.
there is no guaranteed way to open a jw mind.
however, it is generally more effective to avoid discussing doctrine and rather concentrate on the concept that jesus chose the watchtower society as his sole organization in 1919. i hope this may help some of you.
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icyestrm
Its not a good idea to attack a JW's faith, that will close their mind fast. Any attacks are a sign to them that they are being persecuted in Jehovah's name.
In a tactful way, sow the seeds of doubt a little at a time and they will eventually start to fade, we hope.
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"Organization will hinder all growth...."
by bob1999 inso who said this?
"for when the power of organization is once felt, it will soon be used to frown down and hinder all growth in grace and knowledge, and to suppress all teaching and teachers not in harmony with the errors and bondage of said unions.
the only union and bondage which god has ever authorized in his children, is the union between each individual and christ the head....."
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icyestrm
This is a good statement to start laying doubts on our family, friends still trapped in the organization. This clearly shows how much of the JW organization is all about man-made rules and high expectations that most JWs cannot meet.
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NEW policy! NO LIT for EX-JWs!
by MinisterAmos init's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.
if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.
presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.
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icyestrm
Actually this procedure has been going on for a while. The elder goes to the magazine counter and informs the MS that so-and-so is DFed. Sometimes the MS gives it to the DF person or an elder. Not many people know of this, even elders not on the SC are not aware of this procedure.
The letter is a PR move by the GB to put a small band-aid on a large wound that will blow soon. I doubt that elders will personally bring magazines to DF ones because many view them as dogs. One PO I knew made the comment that, 'If someone has been DFed, I don't care about him or her anymore'
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Lurkers! How do you put up with it?
by PopeOfEruke ini just cannot understand how any one in their right mind can read the experiences here concerning the wachtower society's false claims, lies, trickery and deceit, and the example shown by the so-called "elders" in treating the flock with disdain and cruelty, and still stay a jehovah's witness.. lurkers, how can you do that?
do you simply dismiss all the evidence?
have any of you experienced such evil acts personally and still stay connected to the jw's?.
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icyestrm
Its a progressive destructive organization that controls what goes into the typical JW's head. Any attack on them from this site and similar ones is seen in their eyes as persecution. It strengthens their faith and they fall deeper in the hands of the organization. The members who have experience leaving the organization are the ones who are best to assist others who like myself are fading.