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  What bothers/worries you most about the war ?

  by m0nk3y in

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  there seems to be quite a few concerned people out the regarding this war in iraq and for good reason.

  so what exaclty is bothering you about it, does it involve the very real fact that alot of innocent blood could/will be shed ?

  are you fearing this could all be a part of bible/wts prophecy ?

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  freeman

  The thing that upsets me the most is the behavior of some of the permanent members of the UN security counsel, in particular the French. IMHO the French wasted this last opportunity to show a united world commitment to disarming this despot.

  Instead of taking the high road and doing the right thing, France saw the opportunity to take the US down a notch with a sucker punch. Yes, they torpedoed the efforts of the Bush administration in their efforts to build a large, visible, and united front with UN backing to pressure Iraq to disarm under the threat of overwhelming force. And at the risk of total inhalation of his regime and faced with overwhelming resolve and might, Saddam just may have capitulated. But now we will never know.

  Oh yes France won a decisive victory alright, they managed to sting the US real good, much like a flea biting a large dog. Yes they managed to embarrass this administration, but that is the full extent of their victory.

  But what has this French victory really cost? More then most realize I suspect. The French are just now realizing some of these costs to themselves and they are indeed worried, and with good reason. Now the French realizing what an enormous price they will likely pay are backpedaling rather quickly. The French have come to realize that without having fired a shot in this war they will loose billions when it is prosecuted.

  France now hypocritically offers to let the US and its allies use French airspace in support of a war they said they were absolutely opposed to only hours before . How transparent their motives are, and how pathetic is their gesture.

  In reality will the efforts of the French do anything to prevent war? Hardly. War is all but inevitable now, and the French have done nothing to prevent it, and as I have stated perhaps even made it more likely.

  The US will now proceed with 30 + other nations to once and for all disarm and remove the butcher of Baghdad. That will happen, and the victory is a sure bet, but at what price. God I hate to even think about it.

  Could we have done this through peaceful methods? Perhaps, but now thanks in part to the actions of France at the eleventh hour, we will never know will we?

  Freeman
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  How many victims of the blood issue do you know?

  by refiners fire in

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  i knew two personally, in my congo.

  i suspect this is pretty rare.

  not that man people die of refusing a blood transfussion i think.

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  freeman

  Once my wife’s PO told me that he personally did not know of anyone that ever died from refusing blood.

  The strange thing is that he presided over a woman that stopped her cancer treatment because to continue with it would require replacement of red blood cells. She refused the blood and this elder applauded her courageous stand. She left behind her grieving husband and two teenage children, one of which was a classmate in my son’s school.

  I guess he also forgot about another member in his congregation that died from blood loss after his motorcycle accident severed his leg. His wife insisted he not have a transfusion and unfortunately he lost enough blood already that this decision cost him his life. He left behind 3 small children and a widow.

  I don’t believe my wife’s PO was lying when he said he did not know of anyone that died form the refusal of a blood transfusion, I just think he just never reasoned the cause and effect out, or more correctly he blotted it out. That is what this horrific death-dealing policy has done. It has produced a psychosis a fear of facing-up to just how death-dealing this blood policy is. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

  Freeman
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  CELEBRATE with me!!!!

  by outnfree in

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  yay!

  i made the dean's list!

  as some of you may recall, i decided to finally go to college a year after disassociating myself.

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  freeman

  Outnfree: Good for you!
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  No Evidence Against Iraq, You Say?

  by DakotaRed in

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  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html.

  http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,591439,00.html.

  http://www.caabu.org/campaigns/iraqi-exiles-letter.html.

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  I’m wondering, just what it would take for those earnestly opposed to war to agree that Iraq under its present regime constitutes an unacceptable threat that must be dealt with expediently?

  I say this assuming that everyone is aware that the Director of Central Intelligence, George J. Tenet, has stated openly that the Iraqi regime has an active terrorist training camp not far from Baghdad that is known to be frequented by Bin Laden disciples. Bin Laden disciples have used the Bowing 727 jet fuselage parked in the middle of this camp to practice how to hijack airplanes.

  I have a hard time understanding why that one reason alone is not enough to take action.

  Freeman
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  So which of the JW Teachings did you never buy into?

  by berylblue in

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  i have so many, i don't know where to start.

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  I’ve always had problems with the literal interpretation of Genesis. I have no training in anthropology or biology whatsoever, however as someone who has a highly technical background I found it very hard to accept this writing as anything other then an allegorical account written for the simple sheepherders of the day.
  I also had some problems with all the scuttlebutt attributed to those pesky demons. I often silently questioned the intelligence / gullibility of those that believed such things.

  These days I question my own intelligence / gullibility in ever getting involved with this religion in the first place.

  Freeman
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  YOU Are Responsible For Your Kids Being Jehovah's Witnesses, Do Ya Feel Bad

  by minimus in

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  does it bother you that your kids are witnesses?

  does it disturb you because you taught them?

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  Thanks Minimus, how nice to open an old wound.

  You bet it disturbs me knowing I did this to them! But what is done is done and I have to move beyond this. My course of action now is to not allow my younger son to attend programming sessions anymore, and with my older boy, well they really got him already, so I just plant seeds of doubt when I can and give him lots of opportunity to slack off his JW activities when he wants to, and many times he does. It’s really all I can do at this stage.

  The only thing that keeps me sane, or relativity sane, is that each day I do a little something to carry on the fight against the dark tower and win my family back from this cult.

  Very few days go by that I don’t ponder what would things be like if I didn’t ask to study the Bible. Yes I initiated it! Christ THAT WAS THE WORST MISTAKE I EVER MADE IN MY LIFE, WHAT THE FU*K WAS I THINKING!

  Nobody can begin to know the level of guilt a parent feels knowing full well that it is because of them that their own child is now part of this deadly destructive cult. I would never wish such a thing upon anyone.

  Freeman
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  Is the Major Battle Going to Start Today in Iraq?

  by hawkaw in

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  the war has been going on for sometime if anyone has actually been following along what has been going on in iraq .... .

  but today .... .

  msnbc reporting that ari fleischer has lidded his daily press gaggle, and that the president has cancelled some speech or meeting about health care he was supposed to have this afternoon.

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  freeman

  March 13-15 is probably a good day not to be anyplace around Baghdad. No inside info, just a guess.

  Freeman
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  A Big Canadian Apology

  by jgnat in

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  i got this as an e-mail joke today, my apologies if you have heard it already.... on behalf of canadians everywhere i'd like to offer an apology to the united states of america.

  we haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, i am truly sorry.. i'm sorry we called george bush a moron.

  he is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out.

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  freeman

  cute
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  jw field serv. wash out in the rain

  by johnny cip in

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  this morning ; in the rain what do i see?

  from a block away it's 3 jw's holding up their idol under their umberella's .

  i stop.

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  freeman

  Bravo! That was excellent! LMAO

  John, I would have paid to see this skillful surgery you performed.

  Freeman
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  Does God define "right and wrong" or is there an intrinsic 'good' ?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't personally believe in a 'god' but i wonder for those who do .... is there an intrinsic "right and wrong" or moral code that would exist whether or not there was a god?.

  to put it another way, is what we believe is "right or wrong" based on whatever god decides is right or wrong (ie.

  he set's the standard) or is it an intrinisc thing that he also must adhere to in order to be thought of as 'good'.. if god has to adhere and go along with some intrinsic value system then does this effect any claims to be omnipotent and always good?

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  freeman

  What is good or bad is I believe based on our personal belief system which is probably heavily based on the accepted norms laid down and learnt from society. It doesn't make them intrinsically good or bad though and neither does making up stories of a God supporting them.

  Excellent analysis Simon, I agree 100%.

  Freeman