Posts by freeme

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Destroy any JW's faith that they are the only true religion in 5 easy steps

by Must obey! in

try this on the next jw you meet:.

1. ask the jw what religious group jesus selected in 1919 to be his faithful and discreet slave organisation?

the jw will answer: "pastor russell & the bible students"good!!.

freeme

i dont believe there is a perfect way to show a JW the stupidity of the believe system.

yours is nice, but it needs a JW who actually KNOWS what happened more than 5 years ago. i made the experience that at least 80% of all JWs dont know shit about their religions history. they're repeating some crap in the book study to answer questions, but they dont LEARN it. the 1918/1919 date is unknown for many many JWs and most would say it were the witnesses who were selected then, not bible students.

PLUS:

the discrepancy between the back then bible students and todays witnesses is that the witnesses STAYED with gods faithful and discreet slave while the ppl who call themselves bible students today are a sect who didnt want the changes god did to his organization. the modern bible students are the descendants of *apostates* from that time. if new light comes from the governing body today and someone chooses not to accept it hes apostate. and if he chooses to create a new religion by staying with the old light hes even worse! the "new light" doctrine can twist things this way and every JW will accept it. not a big deal in my opinion.

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Armageddon didn't come!

by 5thGeneration in

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friends

crap!.

every year i think the big a will strike at 12:01 on the new year.

disappointed again!.

freeme

the rest of my jw mind always tells me "armageddon is neeeeaaaar", whenever someones says "its out of date, it wont come".

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Guess who came to our house on Christmas Day...

by exwitless in

if you guessed dubs, you're right.

it was around 11:30 a.m., just as i was lazily dozing off on the couch, exhausted because my 9 year old woke me up at 5:30 a.m. (he couldn't wait any longer to look through his stocking!).

i was rudely awakened to the sound of a car door slam in our driveway.

freeme

1) "oh we're really not part of satans world - were recognized when just walking up the driveway!"

2) "were nice to everyone! even da'ed ones!"

3) "at least were going from door2door even on holidays - the important sign of the one true religion according to the bible!"

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The Watchtower and Year 2012

by NomadSoul in

i'm curios of what the watchtower society thinks about the year 2012. i think they russell should've used the mayan calendar, and not the pyramids.

at least he would have something in common with the rest of the prophets.

freeme

please forgive me my ignorance, but whats about 2012 at all?!

edit: seen the prev posts now... so its just the end of the mayan calendar? i dont think the society would base anything on a pagan calendar... do i miss something?

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Feb 15th Watchtower Study Edition - NEW LIGHT - Article in PDF

by AlphaOmega in

the generation seeing the sign .

' previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, "this generation" mentioned at matthew 24:34 meant "the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving jews.

not the whole magazine, but this is the new light article.. .

freeme

Pre 1995
The "generation" applys primarily to the great crowd and secondarily to the remnant
Time period of "generation" Start: 1914 or prior to 1914. End: great tribulation (big A)
1995 - 2008
The "generation" applys primarily to the great crowd and secondarily to the remnant
Time period of "generation" Start:(No start time given but does NOT start counting from 1914) . End: great tribulation (big A)
2008-?
The "generation" applys exclusively to the remnant
Time period of "generation" Start:1914 or any time thereafter . End: great tribulation (big A)

mmh my understanding is:

Pre 1995
The "generation" applys primarily to the great crowd and secondarily to the remnant
Time period of "generation" Start: 1914 or prior to 1914. End: great tribulation (big A) but not later than a human lifespan (70-80 years) counted since 1914.

1995-2008
The "generation" applys to the "generation" of ppl living in the last days. Not limited by a humans lifespan.
Time period of "generation" Start:(No start time given but does NOT start counting from 1914) . End: great tribulation (big A) no real limit just "near"

2008-?
The "generation" applys exclusively to the remnant
Time period of "generation" Start:1914 or any time thereafter . End: great tribulation (big A) No real limit either since the remnant doctrine which suggested that the collecting was over was changed in 2007.

i might be wrong :) im young :P

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Feb 15th Watchtower Study Edition - NEW LIGHT - Article in PDF

by AlphaOmega in

the generation seeing the sign .

' previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, "this generation" mentioned at matthew 24:34 meant "the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving jews.

not the whole magazine, but this is the new light article.. .

freeme

at least its most honest article ive read in a while. two things!

a) be always honest, when changing understanding of a bible passage
b) force noone to believe a current understanding and dont view anybody as apostate if he discusses his alternative understanding with others

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Newly baptized JWs = strict, "old" JWs = not so much?

by Awakened07 in

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yes - it's one of my flashes of memories again:.

i remember how when someone new and really eager and zealous came along, at some point in the conversation (or later) it would be brought up how these new jws (newly baptized) were so "square" (in my language), meaning they were so strict, by-the-book, rigid.

whereas those who had been in longer were more "round", as in more relaxed, not so bothered by the "details"... i remember joking about how newly baptized people should have a year or two of "quarantine" from the field ministry, because they were being too assertive.. now that i remember it so many years later, it's actually rather interesting.

freeme

i was raised "in da tooooooof" but in the time short after my baptism i was very very strict too. i thought if you dont follow everything you propably will die on gods day. 110% or death. period.

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Male or Female?

by serendipity in

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friends

do you prefer working for a male or a female?

why ?

i'll post my answer later.

freeme

37 years in the work force and working with both gender side by side within a team concept i have to say that men get along much better than women.
Women don't even get along with one another. When a team was made up of men only, there was less tension and got along just fine.
This was my experience which might be completely different than yours.
No offense to you ladies but we knew exctaly when it was the time of the month. WATCH OUT

haha this reminds me of the horrible stories i hear all day from my wife who works in an enviroment with nearly everyone female :-D they're fighting each other every day with words while maintaining a "everythings fine" masquerade to the outside. in my job there are very few girls and we're all just friends and if somethings wrong we talk about it openly and thats it. but i think those girls at my wifes workplace are just idiots.

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Male or Female?

by serendipity in

jw
friends

do you prefer working for a male or a female?

why ?

i'll post my answer later.

freeme

me personally made the experience that a female boss more likely makes weired emotional decisions. my two females i worked for were completely cool one day and freaked out the other. i experienced this with a male too, but less often. so somehow i shoudl say i prefer a male boss. but i dont know whether this has anything to do with the average or not. i would prefer to say i dont care whether my boss is female or male.

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Sharing the 'real' truth by commenting at meetings

by skeeder in

having recently gotten my commenting 'privleges' back i try to sow seeds of truth with them.. here are two tidbits i have shared:.

1----- the bible highlights-------when the older men judged legal cases, they did it at the city gates where the proceedings could be observed.. 2-----wt study yesterday-----the world was judged wicked and noah was judged righteous---he was a 'preacher of righteousness' before he started on the ark.

there is no indication that god ever intended for anyone else other than noah and his family to get on the ark.

freeme

True, when your giving a talk you look down and know 3 people are listening, 16 people are really bored, 5 MTS boys think they could be doing a way better job, all the elders are up the back sorting out the cleaning roster, theres 12 women out the back with all the kids, 8 people cant hear you because they have lost their hearing, 4 couples are still getting over there argument, 55 others are working out how to pay there bills and what color carpet to buy and two teenagers want to shag and cant stop looking at each other!!

perfect description of all congregations i was in ever. nothing to add.