i'm inviting former jws to file a class suit against the watchtower for psychological, sociological, physical, intellectual, biological and financial damages.
a. psychological damage:.
1. followers are made to believe that the christian bible is the sole and exclusive word of god.
in United States v. Lee 455 U.S. 252, 257-258 (1982), the California Supreme Court found that "when a person is subjected to coercive persuasion without his knowledge or consent... [he may] develop serious and sometimes irreversible physical and psychiatric disorders, up to and including schizophrenia, self-mutilation, and suicide."
http://www.freeminds.org/psych/thought_reform.htm
Now, if you can prove you were hypnotized or held captive ........
i just posted this on another thread, but thought i'd give it its own.
i hope some of the language is not offensive to anyone.. ----------------------------.
holy spirit conversations stoppers.... if someone asks why certain decisions are made in the congregation, perhaps you could say.... "jehovah's holy spirit is "guding and directing" the body of elders.".
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just about every church i know of does something for the poor and needy around this time of year, who are not necessarily christians or members of their church.
from helping prisoners to delivering food hampers to visiting the lonely and elderly to helping poor people and children overseas, most churches i'm aware of do at least something to materially help the suffering in the community, home and abroad, regardless of their religious orientation.
many of these churches have programmes providing such assistance all year around, even many catholic churches.. but what do the jw's do to actually practically help the suffering and poor at this time of year, or ever?
The JWs I know make fun of the other groups that help people this time of year.
They say things like "Look at that pretense. That group thinks that the hungry and homeless only need a turkey dinner once a year. That will solve the world's problems. Just give them a nice turkey dinner and send them back out to the streets!"
The JWs I know say those groups who give the food pkgs., dinner and gifts ONCE A YEAR are only assuaging their own guilt so they can enjoy their own holidays. They say what the org. is doing for people is giving them hope in their life which no one else can do. The message for a resurrection hope...blah blah blah. Which is a greater gift than a turkey dinner and a toy train.
Baloney, I say. And I read them the scripture:
matthew 25: 37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
But they still don't seem to get it. It's like they have a mind block.
So, basically, what the JWs do to help the poor and needy at this time or any time is NOTHING. But yet they put down and criticize those who DO try to help others.
hello my dear friends !
i did a thread on this about a month ago in a humorous way - so i figured i would do it again to see how things went for you during the christmas holiday season.
hopefully my off-beat sometimes humorous, sometimes insane, sometimes serious advice helped you.
Mr. Flipper...Talk to me about demons.
I always thought the demons had names like: "the spirit of anger", the "spirit of jealousy", the "spirit of alcohol".
So really, is the spirit to blame or is there any personal accountability?
Are demons more than these things? I mean like what's the deal with Jesus sending demons into pigs who then jump off the cliff. Are demons actual entities like life forms?
I think I have gotton a demon from some JWs I know. It's the "spirit of not getting the point".
Help me if you can.
i'd like your take on jdubs who take advantage of government programs, despite having to lie to do it.. my mil & i were talking about some local jdubs who are on "welfare" and get "food stamps", despite having the means.
they ride around in new suvs, live in nice houses, but (obviously) fudge the numbers with social security in order to get benefits.. why do some jdubs take advantage of government?
is it becuase they feel "entitled" to cheat the great satan?
How well informed are these government agencies concerning the wbts "religion"?
Should we have some sort of campaign to inform these social services and educate them about the cult?
Are we not "blood guilty" if we don't do something to correct/ reprove those who deceive?
Are we to go "first to our brother/sister" transgressor?
(I'm thinking of sending this as postcard to some of the self-righteous people I know who are lying to get gov. money)
Zephaniah 3:13
The remnant of Israel will do no wrong;
they will speak no lies,
nor will deceit be found in their mouths.
Do you think we would lovingly be helping these brothers and sisters to expose them to the judicial committee?
Would the state then need search warrants to get those records (among others?) since they now have secret trials concerning fraud in state/governmental matters?
i am now a junior in college, and i have my own place.
i don't really like having roommates at all.
i just left in the middle of a lease because my ex-roommate was being a pain in the ass.
There are some good tips here: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Friends
I have found that most of the time, you will need to be the one to reach out and make an effort.
Be on the welcoming committee when someone new arrives in the neighborhood or in your work office. Welcome them with a little something.... maybe a homemade treat, donut, etc. something thoughtful...maybe just bring a coffee to their desk a few times and small talk.
Most people like to be around others who are fun to be around. If you come off as emotionally needy that is usually a turn off. Everyone has their own problems.
Learning to make small talk is important so you can get some ideas of this persons views (positive or negative) to determine if this is someone you even want to be around. After all, friendship is an investment of your time. You will need to determine if there is any common bonds or interests.
Until you know someone really well, I would keep off the topics of religion, politics, and sex. And certainly I would not begin with hello I am a former Jehovahs-witness. Not many people will know how to deal with JW much less ex-JW. Save it for later if you get to know them well.
I really feel bad for those of you who are friendless, and I often see this with other JWs. So I can't help but think this is a particular enigma to the religion.
I have thought it so because all your time is taken up with meetings, door knocking. There's no time left for social events. In that rigid schedule you have no time for anything else.
And besides, most social events like parties and occassions are scorned by the religion. And if you were to join a club of interest, I am sure others from the congo would put you down for it....wasting your time, blah blah blah. Just as with education or anything else you do to improve yourself.
Not to mention, too, having such fear of "wordly" people drilled into your fabric for so long makes it scary to approach anyone outside your cult circle. And the Friends you find within are only conditional.
Would we be the Obama Nation that leads us to desolation?
as most of you know, on dec 22 i sent my letter of da to a local elder.
in my same town.
about a mile away.. well...i got a phone call today from a very sweet sister, who, if i had stayed, i could have become good friends with.
Maybe they are getting a deluge of letters lately and want to keep it quiet in the ranks.
Maybe the theme this year will be "The Great Falling Away".
does anyone have any interesting and helpful details regarding what this deprogramming involves?
we always here one should deprogram but what exactly does it involve what could be some useful tips to facilitate this process?
i was reading recently in the psychological studies of jung about the concept of the shadow the part of our mind that contains all the repressed and rejected material, some of it was rightly repressed (eg the desire to steal from, or otherwise harm innocent people) and some not.
I'd rather be dead than live the life of a JW for eternity.
I think there HAS to be some sort of a CONFRONTATION with reality. Maybe something that JOLTS those repressed memories.
Question is: How can you push the buttons to find that trigger point? How can you help someone to come to that confrontation?
good tool gone bad.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22493399/wid/11915829?gt1=10841
What a moron. The little GPS device told him to cross a railroad track and he didn't check to see if it was safe first? What a Potsy.
I don't see much difference between that and JW lemmings..........
it's called "blind leading the blind"
