when god created adam and eve did he foreknow that they would sin?.
this is taken from the reasoning book:.
when god created adam, did he know that adam would sin?.
God Knows EVERYTHING, and loved us enough to create us even knowing we would sin
But if he'd really loved us, couldn't he have created us so we wouldn't sin? Or was he incapable of creating perfect humans?
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
when god created adam and eve did he foreknow that they would sin?.
this is taken from the reasoning book:.
when god created adam, did he know that adam would sin?.
If God didn't know but could have known, then wasn't he negligent in not checking the consequences of his action? If he had just stopped for a second, he could have seen the millennia of misery that his course of action would have caused, and done things differently.
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
can somebody please explain to me what exactly is the "un thing" that is making such waves?
Hey aud,
What part of Ireland are you from?
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i was baptised as a jw when i was about 12. i dropped out when i was about 19. i just stopped going to meetings and going in service.
it is now 20 years later.
i am interested in learning about other religions.
Yes fancy, listen to Ranchette, except where she says:
If it were to be found out that you even visit a church you could be imediatly DA'd for interfaith.
Be careful.
Don't be careful, or secretive or apologetic. Live your life the way you see fit, and if they have a problem with that, fuck them. No point going out of your way to antagonise them, but don't let them make the rules.
GentlyFeral, `the "Belief-o-matic" quiz can be found at http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html
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i'd like to find out how many years collectively we have acquired in the wts.
please list how many years you were/have been a jw.
please also list how many years you have been out.
Raised in it.
Baptised 9 years ago today (at the tender age of 15)!
My last meeting was 5 years, 4 months ago.
Too stubborn to get disfellowshipped
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hi all you wordsmiths,.
waiting (my younger sis with whom i'm visiting) and i were discussing the world crisis.
a trivial question came up as to what the "stan" in afghanistan and pakistan and the ilk means.
More on Pakistan's etymology: http://www.khyber.demon.co.uk/history/pakistan/history.htm
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
yes, we non-religious apostates have our paradise fantasies too.
most of us let go of the fantasy of living forever on a paradise earth for another hope.
the one we hope in is a little more realistic than the one we have left behind.. we have accepted that we dont have all the answers about god and an afterlife.
Ranchette, I agree. It may never happen but the world needs wishful thinkers like you.
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hopefully this topic won't shock anyone, i'll try to keep my comments as tasteful as possible.
just recently (last weekend) my younger brother met with the elders because he was engaged in fornication.
the elders decided to disfellowship him even though he had long stopped having any contact with the person he had been involved with.
No, in a discussion board, the best member to deaden if you're stupid like myself is your hand.
Exactly. If you lie on your hand for about 30 minutes till it goes completely asleep, it feels like someone else is doing it
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
i'm interested in finding out what everyone is reading these days.. or what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.. what have you found helpful in re-constructing and broadening the way you think and feel?.
what have you found to be particularly enlightening on 'your journey?'.
thanks in advance,luv to all.tina.
Books I'm currently reading:
What Remains To Be Discovered by John Maddox
The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon
The Calendar by David Ewing Duncan.
I generaly read books in threes, I like to own the books I read even if I'm never going to reread them, and I get very upset if people damage my books (that includes bending the spine or turning down page corners!)
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
this is strictly for those who want to know how to become saved.
22 this righteousness from god comes through faith in jesus christ to all who believe.
there is no difference, .
This is strictly for those who want to know how to become saved. You will not even truly have the desire to unless you are called by the Father.
Even if that were true - and of course it is not, the voices Rex hears do not belong to God - it strikes me as being very unfair. God arbitrarily chooses certain people to be saved and he condemns the rest to an eternity of torture for somebody else's mistakes. Rex, if your god exists, he is evil. Why do you worship him? Is it because you're afraid of going to hell?
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
