(((((((Iforget)))))))) I am so sorry that this has happened. My thoughts are with both of you and hopefully he will get the helps he needs.
Maddie
my younger brother tried to kill himself today.
i am sick inside....sicker then i ever thought possible.
my mother told me the news in the cruelest of ways and i am now in a fog.. i blame the jw's and all the bullshit they put on children who are df.
(((((((Iforget)))))))) I am so sorry that this has happened. My thoughts are with both of you and hopefully he will get the helps he needs.
Maddie
it is gadgets birthday...many of you wont be around on that day so send your greetings before you go away .
happy birthday tou you paul!!!!!
granny mouthy,grace .
Happy Birthday Paul. Have a lovely day!
Maddie
i've been reading various posts and i notice that fading is often advised by others who have done so or wish they had done so.
why is this better than being df'd?
i'm assuming it's because your family will not shun you if you are merely da'd ?
There are positives and negatives for fading and for DA'ing. If you fade you may still keep your family and friends in your life, but have to be careful what you say or do for fear of being outed by the borg. If you DA you have complete freedom to live your life and don't have to worry anymore, but you will be shunned by family and friends that are JW's. The WT has made sure that its members face very difficult and painful choices if they want to leave.
Maddie
my son has been studying with the "gurus" at the kingdom hall for the last few years.
for those of you who were non-jws most of your life (and used to celebrate christmas), then joined the wts cult........didn't you miss spending christmas with your family??.
lavendar .
Lavendar - I used to feel torn in half about it when I converted because my family had always had it. My then husband still celebrated so it still went ahead with me trying not to be part of it which I found difficult and depressing. Now I am having Christmas again and my son doesn't so he won't be spending Christmas with me either. What unnecessary chaos, divisions and pain the WT causes us all. Try not to despair as your son may see the WT for what it is one day. That is my hope for my son too.
Maddie
do you feel more inner peace now or when you were serving as a jw?.
no matter if the teachings were wrong, or not exact, i had more inner peace when i was "in".. i remember when i got operated for a hernia, and had to be put asleep, while i was a jw in good standings.
i knew that god would resurrect me if ever something went wrong, and i didn't wake up from the operation.. today if i had to undergo an other similar operation, i'm not sure i'd have the same inner peace.. i think that no matter what religion you practise, no matter if it's false or not as false, you develop this inner peace, that may only be an illusion..
The inner peace I used to think I had as a JW wasn't real. To be always trying to do better but never doing enough as well as being fearful did not give me anything like inner peace.
I am much more at peace now as I have the freedom to explore my own spirituality at my own pace, and I don't feel that God is going to destroy me because I am not doing what the WT tell me to do.
Maddie
dear maturing friends,.
one day, not so many years back, i read that guys like me were "aging young men.
" i laughed and went on with the day's affairs; however, i do recall that i was drawn a little more often to the looking glass, semiconsciously mouthing those immortal words:.
I don't know what aging gracefully means! My body is going south but in my head I still think, act and like doing "young" things. I think I will fight the aging process till I draw my last breath.
Maddie
sadly, i did not notice it until tonight.
she has an exceptionally long beautiful tail.
it is held high except the last 4 inches which droops like a rag.
My little pussykins has a rib deformity. You can't see it through her fur but can feel it. It doesn't bother her at all and the vet said there is nothing wrong, she was just born with it.
Maddie
while i was an elder (in 2 congregations), over the years, i saw most witnesses that suffered from s o m e t h i n g.. either a witness had chronic depression, mysterious ailments that were never clearly diagnosed by a doctor, or were in fear.
afraid to offend another brother's conscience.,afraid to upset the elders.
afraid to grieve the holy spirit.
Yes depressed and afraid of not being good enough.
Maddie
may make the dreaded announcement to my super righteous, super loyal parents next week that i'm not going anymore.. problem is, as you all know, they "really" believe that it's tantamount to my killing their grandchildren.
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pretty tough decision because i think they kind of get the vibe already!
Its one of the hardest situations to be in and the most difficult decision to face. My thoughts are with you and hopefully it will go better than you fear
Maddie
i've had this idea for a few days, just mulling how to flesh it out if you will.
it may not be a new idea, but i'll try to get it out coherently.. lets say there is a guy, he's a jw but has been surfing the net and knows now that the wts is bogus.
he can't just leave, he has family-wife and young children who are in the borg.
Its well worth a try, if you can stand doing it.
Maddie