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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
now that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.

there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.

not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.
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Interesting old article from Time magazine re:1975
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
don't know if this has ever been discussed on here.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901074-1,00.html .

july 18, 1969 .
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Is "the Great Tribulation" now interchangeable with "Armageddon"?
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it seems that in the latest editions of the wt "the great tribulation" is being referred to as something that only the witnesses will survive.

for example, here are some references pulled from the upcoming members-only study edition: .

page 4, par.
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Any cigar smokers in here?
by marmot in
1. social
2. entertainment
i don't like cigarettes all that much (even though i actually tried to take up the habit, i found out i don't have an addictive personality - same reason why i'm not a coffee person either) but i do enjoy a nice cigar.

notice i said a nice cigar, not those nasty chemically-flavored things that taste like froot loops and smell like a crotch fire.

i'm talking about a nice cuban monte cristo or a real leaf-wrapped cigarillo.
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This is the argument my dad used to justify "new light"
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i was talking with my dad the other week and i revealed my doubts (well, not doubts really, conviction) that noah's flood didn't cover the earth.

he tried the usual, first he printed up all the stuff on the flood that he could find on the wt cd (even though i told him that i already read everything the society has ever written about the flood) and when that failed to convince me he brought out the ol' trust in jehovah(tm) line .

plus, he said that since i was so enamored with science to disprove the flood i should consider how science doesn't have the same position on certain subjects compared to the past and that it's based on progressive understanding.
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Wow, it just clicked. I'm agnostic!
by marmot in
1. jw
2. experiences
i honestly don't think i've ever been this happy in my life.

of course, i've got bipolar ii so i might just be edging on a bout of hypomania but i'm good at taking my med so this could very well be genuine!

i'm so excited at the new look on life this has given me.
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Serious question about WT policy on anointed immortality.
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
someone correct me if i'm not entirely clear on any possible "new light" on this issue, but i got to wondering about something that the watchtower teaches that seems downright frightening.

okay, so the "anointed" are supposed to be whisked right up to heaven after death, "in the twinkling of an eye" as the scripture goes, to an immortal life serving as princes with jesus and co-ruling with him for the millennial reign.

am i correct so far?
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Anybody in Quebec want to meet a Governing Body member this Sat.?
by marmot in
1. jw
2. experiences
david splane will be giving the dedication talk for the new st-georges kingdom hall.

my parents were going to go but that got sidelined by a funeral happening at the same time.

my parents used to pioneer there with brother splane before he received the "heavenly calling" (i wonder if you can buy one of those in the hunting section at wal-mart, next to the duck calls?
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Tipping your hat to a lady is demonic
by marmot in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
...according to the watchtower.

i don't have access to the watchtower library right now (i've only got a mac) but i remember laughing my arse off when i read that in an old questions from readers.

apparently tipping your hat to a lady is considered demonic because it shows deference to the lesser of the sexes, a man putting himself below the woman and other rambling "reasoning" about its origins in medieval times and such garbage.
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Do those of you "born into the truth" have problems with relationships?
by marmot in
1. jw
2. experiences
i'm a 4th generation dub and i was the epitome of a goodie-two-shoes elder's son.

i was taught/brainwashed that dating was evil and only for mature brothers (i distinctly remember a part on the assembly with a "demonstration" that said even 24 years old was too young to date and you should concentrate on becoming a ms or pioneer first) and went through so much soul-destroying guilt because of the society's utterly ridiculous stance on masturbation that it almost drove me to suicide.

didn't help that my father the elder had a massive porn stash.