Ni Baba Yaga,
No chance will they ban it, though on a personal level I drink a lot less since leaving,
llbh
there are those who had perfectly acceptable blood-transfusions way back when, and those who smoked before that ban.
things that were once fine become verboten.
of course them banning liquor is particularly difficult to imagine, as all of the in-depth accounts of bethel depict bethelites imbibing like crazy.
Ni Baba Yaga,
No chance will they ban it, though on a personal level I drink a lot less since leaving,
llbh
i have noticed that if someone has an opinion that does not go with the flow on this forum they often get insulted and shot down in flames.
i thought this was a discussion forum, but i am sadly dismayed to read so much intolerance of another's opinion.
if you appear to support the jw's in any way, even though people like me may disagree with you, you are entitled to your opinion.
Hi James.
I am new here but have found people usually polite. Things do get heated sometimes but for the most part it is an exchange of views. If people are rude they should be told about it.
BTW the way oompa your very funny lol
llbh
i have noticed that if someone has an opinion that does not go with the flow on this forum they often get insulted and shot down in flames.
i thought this was a discussion forum, but i am sadly dismayed to read so much intolerance of another's opinion.
if you appear to support the jw's in any way, even though people like me may disagree with you, you are entitled to your opinion.
Hi James.
I am new here but have found people usually polite. Things do get heated sometimes but for the most part it is an exchange of views. If people are rude they should be told about it.
BTW the way oompa your very funny lol
llbh
i'm not an inspired prophet - nevertheless, let me tell you what the future will be for ordinary, middle.
class people in the united states:.
inflation is going to accelerate and making a living for families is only going to get more difficult.. the real standard of living in the us may fall.
BTw WTWizard, my understanding that Clinton left Bush with a budget surplus and Bush has built a large deficit
llbh
i'm not an inspired prophet - nevertheless, let me tell you what the future will be for ordinary, middle.
class people in the united states:.
inflation is going to accelerate and making a living for families is only going to get more difficult.. the real standard of living in the us may fall.
Hi Metatron,
The situation in the UK is very similar
I am surprised you did not get more posts,as this is a theme that seems to permeate here, and it is one of my pet hates also. I became a witness1974 forsook education and yes became a window cleaner - i hate it. I forsook a place at university to do Chemistry. I look now at my contemporaries and think what might have been. Those of my generation that did obtain degrees were in the minority.
I like the rest think that wtbs is very reprehensible. I am doing all I can to influence my children to get a degree the oldest has just graduated with a first.
Now to make brothers and my children think I ask what is the difference between 40 times 10 and 10 times 40? Answer a heck of a lot it first is the number of hours u have to work and the second is the hourly rate!!
ps I do graduate later when I left the borg - like many others here
llbh
my happy bubble is deflating.
i'm looking at the richmond and toronto apostafest pics and i'm longing for company.. it's been a really long time since i enjoyed good company and warm friendship.
even before we became inactive our friendships with witnesses had waned.. i really am very social.
Hi Changeling
I think this happens, particularly to gregarious people. I am both gregarious and private(usually to recharge). Since leaving I tried to find people I feel comforable with, and accept me . It can be difficult though as my wife is still in. This board does help though. Wishing you well. ps going to first fest Dec1 - a little uneasy.
llbh
i can remember about 2 years before i exited the org i had a terrible dilema which didn't really have anything to do with my doubts in relation to doctrine.. the problem was hearing over and over and over about the fact that being in the org was 'the best place to be'.
that the brothers were 'true friends'.
didn't they have a video out called 'ypa - how can i make real friends?'.
Hi Jovisys, Welcome hang around, there are lots of lovley people here and me.
I left about 10 years ago. My wife & daughter still go. I would never ever go back. Read a few threada here on almost any topic and you will see why.
Keep posting llbh
menezes 'acted like any commuter'.
menezes picture 'was manipulated'.
how does it feel to be wrong?.
Hi Simon,
I bet it is to late for this thread anyhow here what i think.
A very good friend if mine is a retired Met (London) Police Firearms Officer serving many years int he Diplomatic Protection Group. The police have very clear and published guidelines on shooting people. usually they aim for the largest bit, the torso to stop the person. In this bit are many vital organs and arteries, therefore often people die when shot at. In exceptional circumstances they may shoot at the head/neck area, because as he puts it the central nervous system is destroyed thereby stopping a bomber potentially detonating a bomb.; unlike shots to the torso where this may happen.
What is also to be born in mind are two things.
1 The UK was under a high state of alert due to recent bombings
2 Our Police are by and large unarmed which is totally unlike any other Police force in the world that I know of .
The shooting of this Guy was a terrible terrible mistake but no more. He did fit certain profiles so it was understandable.
LLbh
that sept km discouraging doing research except by wt lit.
is still on my mind.
most dubs have the cd for research at most and that stops at 1950. i they wanted to study the foundation of jw on something they would be limited to the proclaimers book and that only gives little snippets of the past.
Hi Oompa love your posts!
Q to 14 year old daughter; do you think that me and your 2 unbelieving brothers will be bird seed come armageddon? It registered a little- not nearly enough though
llbh
narcissism is a term of psychology/psychiatry characterized this way.. has a grandiose sense of self-importance .
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love .
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people .
Hi again Terry,
Thanks for you reply which is pretty much my take. The high levels of deceipt and artifice in both is sad and amazing. What is interesting though is the devices that the members use to overcome thier problems within the group, particularly the thinking ones.
What also suprises me that having now left how much freer I feel. I even vote. wow what a sin!
Btw I did not advocate reading the book bi Jung Chang it is a long and hard read.
Another shorter book is by Ed Hussain - The Islamist. Along similar lines on radical Islam.
llbh.