Frederick Franz.
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If you could clone anything that is extinct what would it be?
by Quirky1 inthe dodo bird maybe?.
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Are there any Witnesses you feel sorry for?
by BonaFide ini have a friend who has been in bethel for 15 years.
he is still single and looking for the right girl.
he is a really nice guy, he tries to help people in his congregation, the young people, the older ones.
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Re: Are there any Witnesses you feel sorry for?
Definitely. Many good friends, and my parents especially. As I'm "cold", I know my mom is crying every night because she's not going to see me in Paradise.
She's 65+ years old. She should be enjoying her retirement. But she goes to service every day with my dad. And she's thinking that her son "abandoned Jehovah"... and suffering because of the teachings of self-deceived old men in Brooklyn.
It really sucks.
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We Don't Want to Know Why You're Leaving
by passwordprotected inour exit from the watch tower society was fairly speedy.
within about 3 months, we'd ceased attending meetings and lost all of our friends (apart from hobo ken and his wife).. what was shocking - and only confirmed that we were right to leave - was how our decision was met by our so-called friends.. we were leaving behind people whom we'd enjoyed friendship for over 20 years.
we were leaving behind friends who were closer to us than our own families were.
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Passwordprotected said: “We were leaving behind friends who were closer to us than our own families were”.
Nick! Commented: “For about 6 months after I stopped attending meetings, NO ONE ever showed up, although I had been for almost 30 years a very prominent elder in the country where I live!”
Guys:
I can relate to this. I used to be an Elder in the congregation too. In order to fade, my wife and I switched to another congregation and disappeared from the meetings (“jumped from the bridge”). Some of our friends left messages in our voicemail, and that was all. Of all the supposed "friends" that we had, only a pair of good friends continued calling us for some months, and NEVER asked why we were not going! The only call from a close Elder “friend”, from the old congo, was a voice message, asking me to return the Elder’s book!!
(BTW, we are not disfellowshipped or D/A. Nobody knows why we stopped going to the meetings in the old congo, but nobody asked!! And we prefer it stays that way, for the sake of the family! ;)
When we had some “doubts”, NO ONE from our family tried to ”help” us. Other family members started shunning us (they even disappeared from Facebook!) and have NEVER called us to know what happened.
My dad tried to “reason” with me after almost A YEAR!! But he used “circular reasoning” all the time… He didn’t want to hear my reasons, or to check printed evidence.
It’s pathetic. If our “eternal salvation” was at stake, why nobody tried to “save” us?? Where's the Love?
This is what I notice now: There is no real defense. If you really read and study the bible, you will know more about it than the normal dub. You will notice immediately how we use every individual text out of context. And if you study the history of the Organization, everything will fall as a house of cards.
The normal R&F member will be defenseless if you really know the details. They are scared to confront the reality. That’s why nobody will really try to help you.
It’s easier to label you as an “apostate”, and discard you like trash. It doesn’t matter if you were a moral, hard-working caring and trusted JW for years. If you have “doubts”… you are “gangrene”, you are worst that crap, and all the “Christian love” disappear. Even from family members.
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Being a Jehovah's Witness - What did it do to your mind?
by jambon1 ini was raised in a non religious household that was very stable & loving.. through circumstances, i bacame a jw.. .
during the 10 years that i had the misfortune to practice the religion, my young energetic & happy.
mind became negative, worried & depressed.. .
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Guys:
Only when I became "disconnected" was when I realized what happened to my mind...
I was a born-in, a good dub. Really believed everything. Went up the "Corporate ladder": MS @ 19, Elder @ 25. No drugs, no pre-marital sex, a 'good example' in the congregation... etc...
Really Busy all the time in "spiritual matters"... but not happy. Feeling that my efforts were never enough. Having panic attacks since my childhood. Diagnosed with "General Anxiety Disorder" @ 26, after various nervous breakdowns. Hooked on anti-deppresants for many years...
After the horrible shock of finding that "The Truth"(tm) was all a lie... No more guilt! After I stopped going to the meetings, I don't need medication. I only have a Xanax pill in my wallet, as a "lucky charm", in case of emergency.
I'm not DA'd yet, but the Elders are trying to make a "witch-hunt". No evidence, whatsoever...;)
I stopped ("cold turkey") going to the meetings 8 months ago, and I feel happier than ever.
Now I'm trying to be a "normal" human being. Making new "wordly" friends.
And have a new family @ JWN!!!
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Welcome!!!
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Not a Lurker anymore!!!!!
by Ohio Nana ini have been reading your posts the last couple of weeks and wanted to post and talk to all of you and at last i can.. first i am (or was)a unbaptised publisher but have jw daughter (really into it)and jw granddaughters and df son in law(for smoking).. i studied for 2 yrs and tried field service(hated hated hated it).anyway reading your posts helped me to make the decison that.
i just couldn't go on going to meetings even to be with my grandchildren(who i love dearly)and living a lie.
i believe jw's are a cult and the.
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Welcome !!!
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Greetings!
by viva innew here, lurked for a while, glad to be able to join.. my introduction from jw recovery:.
"i am new to the board, so a short introduction is in order.
i am 26 years old and just out for about a month (update: four and a half months).
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Welcome !!!
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I'm Finally Registered!
by SuspiciousMinds inwow - finally!.
after several months of reading this forum daily, i'm finally registered and able to post!
i know many of you well from reading current threads almost daily since last summer.
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Welcome guys!!!
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Going Out in "Service"
by Farkel ingoing out in "service".
we used the term thousands of times, but did we ever consider the term itself and what it actually meant?
but whom were we serving?
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Farkel, please don't stop posting here! We enjoy your wisdom words!!!
Great article!
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What Got YOU Out Of The Organization?
by minimus inhow did you come to the final decision to get out of her (the organization, "mother")?
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tooktheredpill
The 607/587 issue opened a can of worms for me.
The rest is history!
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