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  Don't Blame the Organization for Imperfect Humans

  by ranmac in

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  2. beliefs

  i think everyone here has heard this as a response to questioning or serious concerns about the religion.

  i think its a cowardly retort.

  a flimsy cop-out.

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  Erm, one question: What IS the ORGANIZATION?

  Organization is just an administrative structure to achieve a goal in an "organized" manner. It does not think, it does not feel, it doesn't even do anything. It doesn't breath and therefore cannot be blamed for anything.

  It's the PEOPLE that are to blame, the people that come together with the intention of achieving something. The whole thing is completely illogical. There is, in the real world, no personification of an organization, like there is no personification of "wisdom". It's just a figure of speech that people have come to believe. It's just another CONCEPT that brings people further away from REALITY.

  Seen from this standpoint, they are all guilty, the so called Organization and, more importantly, the people behind it. Now and in the past. It doesn't matter that they are imperfect, they created the concept to fool people and that makes them guilty as charged.

  Just my 2 cents

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  Horse Meat found In hamburgers in UK and Ireland

  by Pterist in

  1. social
  2. current

  london (cnn) -- uk food safety officials have ordered the testing of all beef products following the discovery of horsemeat in beef lasagna sold by uk firm findus, only weeks after many meat lovers were dismayed to learn horse and pig dna had been found in burgers.. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html.

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  And Germany as well

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  Coca Cola Death? Should i sell my KO stock?

  by skeeter1 in

  1. social
  2. physical

  coroner says coca-cola addiction responsible for womans death neetzan zimmerman .

  when 30-year-old natasha harris of invercargill, new zealand, died of a heart attack three years ago, her family suspected the cause of death was linked to her extreme fondness for coca-cola.. drinking as much as 10 litres (2.5 gallons) a day left the mother of eight with myriad health problems, including cardiac arrhythmia, rotten teeth, and a full-blown addiction.. "(she would) go crazy if she ran out... she would get the shakes, withdrawal symptoms, be angry, on edge and snappy," harris's mother-in-law said last year.. harris's husband, christopher hodgkinson, recalled how his wife's health quickly deteriorated in the months prior to her death.

  "she had no energy and was feeling sick all the time ... she would get up and vomit in the morning," he said.. coca-cola has persistently maintained that, despite her daily consumption of twice the recommended caffeine intake and over 11 times the acceptable amount of sugar, harris's death could not be definitively linked to her coke habit.. but a coroner report released today claims to have done just that.. wrote coroner david crerar: "i find that, when all of the available evidence is considered, were it not for the consumption of very large quantities of coke by natasha harris, it is unlikely that she would have died when she died and how she died.".

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  I agree that the sugar in Coke, specially the fructose can and does wrec havoc with the whole body, because we are not designed to handle the amounts of sugar that we "normally" force into our bodies.

  But drinking it until it kills you is utterly stupid. It was her own fault. Even water can kill you if you drink too much.

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  "Why Do Many Male Jehovah Witnesses Who Learn TTATT Grow Beards"?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the year once 1983 and the brother who use to study the bible with me drove by and had a full on "charles manson" looking facial hair and beard.

  i asked tina, a friend what's up with him?

  tina was 19 and a hot red-head woman who was partially in the religion but had problems with fornication.

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  I find it to be true in a lot of cases. I did grow a beard and still have it. I've been out officially for the last 4 years and decided to grow a beard very fast after getting out. Reason? I always wanted to see how I looked with one, besides I could never understand the logic behind it. Hippies? I think I've only seen a couple of them in my life (I grew up in Honduras in central america. Believe me, no hippies there.)

  There is no Bible support for it. Actually the text talking about beard shaving states that it should not be destroyed. Interestingly, the next verse says clearly that tattoos are not allowed. Based on this, I always reasoned that it tattoos are not allowed in the religion based on that text (Lev. 19:28), then beard should be allowed based on the previous verse.

  27 “‘YOU? must not cut ?YOUR? sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard. 28 “‘And ?YOU? must not make cuts in ?YOUR? flesh for a deceased soul, and ?YOU? must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.

  Actually the ban on beards it not an universal thing. I was once visiting a congregation in the southwest of Germany and was completely surprised by the fact that the Watchtower conductor, obviously an elder, had a full, well kept, beard.

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  Apostates are narrow-minded victims of brainwashing who believe everything they read

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or so says the person who left this comment on jwsurvey.org.... what just amazes me is how people can pass judgement on others, make vast sweeping statements and make out that they know best.

  this isnt just based on this page, but other pages ive read on this website.

  while youre at it why not just say all black people are criminals, all asians are rapists and all white people molest their children.

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  Why not think for yourselves? Why do you take everything on face value? Why not question what is being told to you? Why not be different rather than follow the crowd? From what I know JWs are told to question everything and not blindly believe what they are told. So if after they question it and they want to believe in a god called Jehovah, leave them to it. There are clearly many of you who don’t question, don’t look at both sides and just believe in any hype. You get on the hate bandwagon and ride it all the way along. Yes we have freedom of speech, but why use it to hate others? You think JWs have been brainwashed? You make me laugh.

  This really made me laugh. Unbelievable... JWs question everything, maybe, and don't believe blindly what they are told, maybe, except if it comes from the GB. It really proves they ARE brainwashed.

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  BTW, just 9 days until the end of the world...

  by Satanus in

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  2. friends

  just, so you know.

  are you keeping on the watch?

  i know i am;).

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  In a couple of years, we can show the film 2012 to young kids and say: "I survived this".
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  Anyone know of any effective but simple diets/diet tips? Weight gain after giving up smoking!

  by Lozhasleft in

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  2. friends

  i'm really struggling with this.

  i gave up smoking a few months back and have put on around 20lbs already.

  i've gone up another dress size and i wasn't slim to begin with!

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  Very easy, nothing to buy: www.leangains.com or a bit more easily explained: www.rippedbody.jp

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  Whats happened to Commentary Press

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  2. bible

  is it planning to reprint rays books?.

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  If Cynthia is not interested on continuing with publishing this awesome couple of books and we recognize the importance of them for people with doubts or who have recently abandon the WTS. Does that mean that it could be OK to distribute the PDF files for people who would benefit from them? I am not talking about the "legal" aspect of it. Up to this moment, I have made sure to direct the people who wants the books to Commentary Press, but what about now?

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  does anyone feel messed up sexually because of being brought up as jw? like you have missed out, etc?

  by johnjones3210 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hiya,.

  i'm new to this forum but just wanted to talk to somebody about this.. i was brought up as a jw and left just over a year ago.

  i'm now 26 and feel messed up sexually.

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  Blondie - http://shaadi.jharkhandi.com/2009/07/homosexuality-hinduism-and-section-377.html
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  atrapado's story parte dos

  by atrapado in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we met after the meeting which i found strange i figured if i was to be named it would be before the meeting.

  they read me the letter from the wt.

  it basically said that they were happy about my recommendation but they couldnt accept the recommendation of a 16 year old that i should wait until i was at least 17. of course i was not 16. the problem is that in spanish you write the day first the month after.

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  I just feel like I used to feel after reading the yearbook's experiences, only in reverse...

  Gracias por la experiencia Atrapado.

  Vivalavida