remember what they said about those killed in sodom and gomorrah? At first they said no, they won't be resurrected. later yes..and then no again. don't know whether it is yes or no now...do you still give a damn as to what they say? They say non JWs will all be killed at the big A. But ask yourself this question : "Have every person on this earth been reached with their "good news"? Is it fair for these people to be killed without having a chance to choose? Furthermore, not all who were DFed or DA'ed has commit a sin. Some were DF because they begin to have doubts and dare to question. Will J destroy these people? I remember a verse that new converts 'examine the scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.'But JWs can be dfed for doing so and they will be killed at big A?
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What happens if your DF'ed at the Big A
by sooner7nc inthe question is actually, what does the borg say or think as regards persons who have been df'ed who have shown repentance, but have not been reinstated at the time of the big a, or die in an accident, sudden illness, etc.
while df'ed.
do these persons get raised from the dead, or are they sol because of the vagaries of time and circumstance?
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WILL JW's MURDER as an organization during an "invisible" Armageddon?
by GoddessRachel inthis was my post on another thread but it needed it's own thread so as not to topic/thread steal.
someone (voideater, i think...) made this comment on another thread, facetiously:armageddon has arrived!
but...invisibly.... this was my reaction to it, and i'm curious what people think.
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spiritboi
hahaha! those with family members who are jws beware! they may poison you or kill you in your sleep. I should be quite safe here. there are so few jws in my country.
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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...
by digderidoo in...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.
", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.
he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.
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spiritboi
who has blinded us into becoming witnesses of this bloodthristy god in the past?
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Anyone who joined here in the last 6 months post here
by WT=watchtrouble ini thought it would be interesting to see just how many people have climbed aboard jwd within the last 6 months.
it will give us an indication on how many people are actually coming away from the borg.. i may not be replying all the time but will pop in every day of so.. lets keep this thread going and use it to welcome new ones.
may i be the first to say welcome.
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spiritboi
I joined JWD in oct 07 but has already left the borg 2 yrs ago. Their teachings of demons has been haunting me even though I have left as I got myself dealing with spiritism. But after just a month here, reading posts from you all, I come to realise that the "truth" may not be the truth afterall.Through my own experiences with the spirit world, I can now conclude that these spirits are not demons and that there is really life after death. You will seldom see me posting here as I have put all those jw junk stuff behind, and am living a free life. Thank you guys and gals for giving me the support when I needed it most.
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Apostate Bible studies?
by darkuncle29 ini've had this idea for a few days, just mulling how to flesh it out if you will.
it may not be a new idea, but i'll try to get it out coherently.. lets say there is a guy, he's a jw but has been surfing the net and knows now that the wts is bogus.
he can't just leave, he has family-wife and young children who are in the borg.
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But you must remember the JWs mentality. They will flee if anyone tries to plant a doubt in their minds.
It won't be so smooth sailing as you wish. They may advise you to stop studying with this fella. If you insist, they may just simply refuse to sit in during the study. Or they may inform the elders. The elders may tell you to pass over this study to them. And after some time, they will just stop the study with him...
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Do you see jesus?
by spiritboi inremember to click on the pic to see where jesus is.. http://whorechurch.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/do-you-see-jesus/.
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Remember to click on the pic to see where jesus is.
http://whorechurch.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/do-you-see-jesus/
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no money?
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Hi all....wow
by -Tank inhello folks.
i posted one topic in the "relationships" section of this board, but just wanted to say a few words, and introduce myself, i am tank.
i was just curious, this is a jw board, i was expecting to find 80% of the members, or posts, to be of diehard, hardcore jw's, trying to preach there beliefs or there views, but yet, almost every thread i read has to do with someone leaving, already left, or a story of when they left, nonetheless, all the stories lead away from the jw religion.
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Did anyone else know, before they got into it, or were thinking about about getting into it, that they had this incredible hold on there members?
Nope! I was fooled into it at the age of 15! Who would want to get into it if they know that their life will be controlled by that damned borg?
No, it's not just having to attend 1 or 2 meetings per week and reading a few scriptures a day once you are in.
You need to :
1) Give up your ability to think, reason and question. You will be disfellowshipped if you dare to question them.
If you have a JW wife after u are DF'd, it will be hell for u for the rest of your life.2) You cannot celebrate birthdays, christmas, etc.. No singing of national anthem, no saluting of flag, no military service.
3) you need to minimise your association with your worldly colleagues, friends and relatives.
4) you need to be their literature salesman
AND ...
even after you have left them for 2 whole years, you may still be unable to sleep. You may need to jump out of bed in the middle of the night and vent your frustration in JWD like what I did...
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When YOU went out in the field service.....
by JH inwhen you used to go in the field service, did you go out to have 2 more hours on your report, or did you really want to save somebody's life by preaching a message of salvation ?
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spiritboi
I don't need to pray for nobody at home here in singapore. On sunday mornings, out of 10 doors we knocked, 8 were either not home, still sleeping or simply refuse to open the door. For the 2 doors with someone home, witnessing last for barely a few seconds.
"Good morning, we are bible students..." (jw are banned .. they call themselves bible sutdents here)
" we are buddhist/muslim/hindus ! " and door was banged shut!
Very unfertile ground. 3 years in it and I couldn't find a bible study myself. I somehow managed to get 2 of my classmates to study with me...and our bible study is interesting...15 mins study, 45 min or more talking about other things, joking and laughing. So there it is. Monthly report 8 h, 2 bs and 1 or 2 RVs...
My FS performance scored a "F" :2 bible studies became baptized witnesses. But when I left, they oso followed me...
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Why the Hate???
by Confession inoften a person asks of ex-jws, "why the hate?
it's possible that they've seen examples of how some can be opportunistic in their finding fault of people or groups.
some people hate walmart.
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spiritboi
yes , confession, a great post.
My situation is entirely different from many posters here. My family members are non-believers. Leaving the borg is a relief for me. I am free to do whatever I want. I am happy to be out and there is no cause for me to hate or to be frustrated with the wts. And when I first came to JWD, I could not understand the hatred or frustration of many here .
But 3 wks here now, after reading the ordeals that so many of you went thrru after leaving the borg and learning so many things that is happening behind the WTS, I begin to understand.
Your post summarises very well what I have found out...