Breaking Away,
Just hatred of sin here bubba. That's the culprit.
1.I sure as hell ain't "bubba".
2.If you believe in God, why don't you let HIM take care of the sin, while you work on whittling down that rafter in your own eye.
BreakingAway
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Struggling with the concept of a "God"
by littleblueuk inthis topic, i'm sure, has been discussed many times, but today i am really contemplating the concept of god.. i remember vividly the old testament; the israelites slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children at god's direction at jericho, leaving no one alive.
i remember thinking then as a child how cruel that was.
there are many other examples.. then reading the news today i read a section in the world news about india.
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update...husband made appt. with the elders, what do you think of this?....
by New light for you inok... so my husband felt bad that the elders wanted to meet with us and he wasn't responding... so he set it up for saturday at 2 even though everyone said dont meet with them.
oh ya, and everyone said not to meet with them at your house, but again, he didn't want to rock the boat.
it's funny, though he was the first one to leave, he's still afraid and doesn't want to "raise any red flags" he's willing to just say "we're discouraged, can you just leave us alone fora while" feel free to yell at him (robert7).. here's the thing.
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My instincts are such... right now... i want to go to the meeting and immediately say.. " i do NOT believe in the society or the faithful and discreet slave. i do not beieve this is the true religion. I am willing to walk away- i have no interst in bringing anyone down, and if i'm out of site, they will have no desire to contact me. How come i think you will find it necessary to throw me out?
ANyway, I'm sure to go to hell if i were to say that... right? what would be my consequences? any elders out there?
Well , I stepped down as an elder just a couple of years ago and I can tell you that sadly you'll be viewed as an apostate just for uttering those simple words.It would be an exceptional elder that would not try to pursue disfellowshipping as anyone who holds such views is considered a threat to the spirituality of the congregation.They will say that regretfully they have to keep the "congregation clean" and any threatening influence must be removed."A little leaven spoils the whole lump."You gave into "apostate" material and thinking and you brought it on yourself." This is how they've been trained to think.
Initially, they WILL try to change your mind and get you to admit that your thinking is wrong as the apostate material has infected your thinking.Likely, a study program with someone will be recommended.Only by openly admitting that you're wrong and that "this really is the troof" will you be able to avoid being disfellowshipped.Unfortunately, even after that, you will be viewed with suspicion and a skeptical eye.If it all sounds extreme...it's because it is.They hate independence, everyone must either think the same or keep their mouth shut.The dark ages are still alive and "well".
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Struggling with the concept of a "God"
by littleblueuk inthis topic, i'm sure, has been discussed many times, but today i am really contemplating the concept of god.. i remember vividly the old testament; the israelites slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children at god's direction at jericho, leaving no one alive.
i remember thinking then as a child how cruel that was.
there are many other examples.. then reading the news today i read a section in the world news about india.
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Littleblueuk, Many of us here have struggled with the concept of God and the "allowance" of suffering.In fact, I started a thread not too long ago about how this goes right back to God's dealing with Adam and Eve and their unborn children.A lot interesting contributions are contained within the four pages of the thread, perhaps it will help to take a look at it...
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Struggling with the concept of a "God"
by littleblueuk inthis topic, i'm sure, has been discussed many times, but today i am really contemplating the concept of god.. i remember vividly the old testament; the israelites slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children at god's direction at jericho, leaving no one alive.
i remember thinking then as a child how cruel that was.
there are many other examples.. then reading the news today i read a section in the world news about india.
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Perry preaches a message of hate and damnation, no wonder he's so obsessed with the God of the Bible.It's what he wishes he could be.
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Godspeed to Watchtower Extremism
by metatron inso, video games are like radioactive waste?.
and celebrating birthdays is like outright satanism?.
and the ever cowardly watchtower society doesn't want the public to know plainly that they will delete elders who let their kids go to college?.
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"All autonomous units accept mandatory sector assimilation. Coordinated constriction underway, debride and cauterize. Entering phase 9-enhanced compliance. Deploy advisory control and oversight. Submit and be subsumed."
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I've now been outed as an APOSTATE by my dad......
by babygirl75 ini love my dad & mom so much.
they are just so involved with the religion and will not see any other point of few.
my son is with my parents spending his first week of summer vacation with them.
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I'm sorry to hear that Babygirl ! They're no doubt in turmoil themselves but they've been trained by the bOrg to behave this way.Their minds are no longer their own.Really, the heart and the mind engage in battle when these things happen and that's why the Society harps so much on being "loyal to the Org".It's just plain sick and I hope for the downfall of this pathetic CULT.
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What Kind of Phone Do You Use?
by minimus inmy cell is a razor from motorola.
verizon has some new phones available.
if you were to upgrade, what would you get?
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Campbell's
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Gas Prices & Field Service
by doinmypart inthe reason given for combining the bookstudy with the tms and service meeting was rising gas prices.
whether that was society's true reason for the change or not, that was what the publishers were told.. if i were a publisher contemplating this coming weekend's field service activity and a near-empty gas tank, i simply would not go out.. do you think there will be a corresponding reduction in the number of field service hours as gas prices increase?.
has anyone noticed a trend in the monthly reports published in the km?.
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There will probably be less driving and more "lying" about service time.
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Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic
by Quandary inan elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.
all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.
almost verbatim!
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Wow ! That's some crazy ass reasoning right there ! Makes you wonder what would happen if this elder started saying this stuff from the platform.
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Yes, I do think we should recycle JW's.We can turn them into apostates !