It also reminds of Bart Simpson
1.."I didn't do it "
2.."Nobody saw me do it"
3.. "You can't prove anything thing"
The legal sidewinding in this case seems unbelievable, but their lawyers have had plenty practice in court.
martinwellborne
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Barbara Anderson's Paedophilia CD: The Watchtowers Chocolate Cake Defence
by Duncan ini received my copy of barbara andersons cd paedophilia in an american religion a month or two ago, and i have been reading through it since.. what follows, although i have called this a review, is in no sense a scholarly consideration of the legal merits of the cases described, a task for which i am wholly unqualified.
these are, rather, my subjective reflections on the material presented, the impressions i gathered while reading the legal filings, my untrained, common-man appraisal of the cases laid out in those documents.
ill also admit to being swayed by tone of voice adopted, and to using my own common-sense yardstick in determining the reasonableness of the statements made, the responses given and the arguments put forward.
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Keeping in touch/making a clean break
by B_Deserter ini wanted to get your opinion on something.
how do you all feel about getting in touch with long-lost ex-jws?
there are a couple of people i used to know that i would love to hang out with again.
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martinwellborne
I have a few old friends that I would love to rekindle the former closeness with that I felt so long ago. But because of the suspicion that is rife from top to toe through the borg, it seems to carry on after leaving. the "what if these ones were to return to the fold? would they turn me in? scenario" rears it's ugly head....... IT REALLY IS CULT TACTICS we are suffering from.
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SHOULD JWS DRINK CAPPUCHINO?
by badboy init is named after an order of monks.. therefore should a jw drink cappuchino in view of its connection with a part of babylon the great?.
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martinwellborne
Caffeine is a drug, a stimulant, found in "food" such as coffee, tea and chocolate products. A cup of coffee contains between 100 and 150 milligrams of caffeine, a cup of tea 90 milligrams, a bottle of cola drink 40 to
72 milligrams, a cup of cocoa 50 milligrams and a bar (85 grams; 3 ounces) of bittersweet chocolate about 75 milligrams. With most persons caffeine stimulates the heart and kidneys, quickens reaction time and
promotes alertness. Caffeine, though, seems to aid some older persons to relax. Also, caffeine is sometimes used to treat headaches, because it affects the blood vessels of the brain. Yes, the drug caffeine
produces effects on the human body. However, does the Bible condemn eating or drinking things that contain natural substances that may stimulate or relax you?
Answer...
No!
But i get the point :-)
There is room for contradiction here.
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JW involved in Maddie's kidnapping?
by behemot inhttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23422086-details/murat's+lover:+'i+was+at+jehovah's+witness+meeting+when+madeleine+was+snatched'/article.do.
strange story though: this witness lady shares a flat with her "estranged husband" and has a "lover"???.
anybody knows about her current status?.
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martinwellborne
Sounds as though she may be studying?
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Why the molestation issue won't bring down JW's
by proplog2 in?molestation is not a problem unique to jws.
it happens all the time everywhere.
it is a human problem.
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martinwellborne
Yes a lot of good argument therein. But they are all so very good at quoting 1Cor 5:6-8 "OUR [cause for] boasting is not fine. Do YOU not know that a little leaven ferments the whole lump? 7 Clear away the old
leaven, that YOU may be a new lump, according as YOU are free from ferment. For, indeed, Christ our passover has been sacrificed. 8 Consequently let us keep the festival, not with old leaven, neither with leaven of
badness and wickedness, but with unfermented cakes of sincerity and truth" If their policy is at fault then whole lump is rotten.
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Recession Coming?
by new boy inevery year john mitchell (the head economist for u.s.bank) gives a talk to us realtors, in portland or.
he talks first about the world economy, then the u.s.a. and ends up with oregon's economy ....he usually is right on.
he perdicted housing prices peeking the third quarter of "06" he this came to pass.
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martinwellborne
Dollar 0 Gold 1.
dollar down gold up
GOLD $801.60 per ounce
all the economists like hard money
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"Where's your jacket brother"
by jambon1 ini remember an elder walking in the hall and it was the 1st thing he said to me as he saw me dealing with the sound dept.
"where is your jacket"!!!!
nice greeting!!
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martinwellborne
I can remember being a little hard up as a struggling pioneer and buying second hand shirts that were a little too tight to get that top button done up. and the watchtower conductor came up to me about why my top shirt button was undone. not here's some cash to buy a new shirt.
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Pedophile in the hall
by martinwellborne inthere's a pedophile in our hall i aint going back, i've had enough.
why wont the elders disfellowship him, or tell him he aint welcome anymore?
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martinwellborne
No, I don't think I am rushing to judge him, society has already done that saying he has paid his penance and he is back on the streets and going to the hall. But on reading on this website elsewhere that he will be allowed to go from door to door again, when the elders say so, makes me angry. As has been pointed out something is wrong with the pedo policy. Also mr warlock thanks! i suppose this is what it feels like for abused children when nobody believes them!
All that aside I am no longer going to the hall and i suppose this latest problem is the latest in a long line of issues I have had with the witnesses over a number of years. One I found I could not live like the "shiny happy people", i liked beer (still do), i liked music that i was supposed to burn (i aint burning it), i made up my own mind on stuff (not party line), i gave up the ministerial-slave bit as i was getting 'ab'-used , then my witness life was like a pendulum, gave talks in the ministry school, stopped giving talks, started giving talks again, my sister left the truth, my cousin left and I have had a lot of friends leave the "truth" thro disfellowshipping or because of divorces etc and i did not think they had been fairly treated. I have also found that i don't really know any of the people as well as i thought i did, even the brother that studied with me. anyway i am glad i had a life before i joined the witnesses and i am able to try to get a "normal" life again. finding it hard to stop imagining "its the end of the world as we know it". anyway thanks for listening MB.
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Pedophile in the hall
by martinwellborne inthere's a pedophile in our hall i aint going back, i've had enough.
why wont the elders disfellowship him, or tell him he aint welcome anymore?
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martinwellborne
He has served time in jail, he is now out with two elders either side of him at the meetings, but i dont think he should ever be allowed anywhere near the place again. i feel so angry about it, p.s. you believe what you like mr skeleton. MW.
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Pedophile in the hall
by martinwellborne inthere's a pedophile in our hall i aint going back, i've had enough.
why wont the elders disfellowship him, or tell him he aint welcome anymore?
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martinwellborne
There's a pedophile in our hall I aint going back, i've had enough. why wont the elders disfellowship him, or tell him he aint welcome anymore?