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Posts by Gordy
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202CO/DO's in the UK?
by pobthespazz incan anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?
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Society's claim of Matt. 24:14 being fulfilled - What it could really mean
by Jourles ini've had this thought for quite a while and wonder if fits with the recent talk about the wts claiming that matt.
24:14 has been fulfilled.
my thought was this --- in the wake of the recent cutbacks at bethel, scaling back of literature, and other cost cutting measures, could the wts be preparing the r&f for the complete or massive reduction of literature that would normally be placed with "householders?
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Matt. 24:14 fulfilled... looking for audio recording
by Elsewhere inthere have been several threads about matt.
24:14 being fulfilled and a few have mentioned audio recordings of this.
does anyone know where i can get a copy of the audio?.
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Gordy
http://media.putfile.com/Matthew-24-14-fulfilled
Warning it will make you very very angry.
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PROVE ME WRONG! JW's were the only religion to oppose Hitler
by truthsearcher inthis statement was made to me and i want to refute it with verifiable information on other denominations.
anyone with ideas?.
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The Watchtower and Hitler
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Post your favorite saying
by Scully ini was just pondering how the wts has, for over a century, been able to convince people to do what is contrary to their best interests with fear tactics that armageddon is coming soon, and i came up with what is going to be my pet phrase for a while:.
"only religion has the power to compel people to embrace sheer stupidity in the name of faith.
" ~ scully, december 28, 2006. i googled it, and didn't see that anyone else has claimed it, so until someone else finds an attribution for it, i'm claiming it as my own.
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"If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like in the Gospel. Then its not the Gospel you believe, but yourself" - Augustine
"People say they love the truth. What they mean is that they wish what they love was truth" R.J.Singer
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WHY GOD CANNOT FORGIVE YOU
by Terry init is little understood by christians what a difference there is between themselves and judaism; especially on the matter of whom god forgives and why.. a christian expects to sin against many people in the course of their life, but; proudly boasts that they aren't "perfect just forgiven.
" this is wrong by judaism's ethical, moral and theologic standards.. let me explain why.. in judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!.
if you steal from bob; only bob (the injured party) can forgive you.
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In Judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!
Then why did the Pharisses say to Jesus that only God can forgive sins?
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Skeptical of the Apostates Motivation
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: georgia, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 18px; } .style2 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style4 {font-size: 16px} --> skeptical of the apostates motivationmy best friend presented a hard-hitting question about former jehovahs.
witnesses.
he believes that many individuals leave the truth because it is hard; and they look for any miscue to escape the organization and their responsibility to god.
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I left because of the lack of love at a time when I needed it.
But I never found it hard. Lets face it whats hard about it. All your beliefs are set out for you, you don't have to think about them. You do your 2 -3 hours door-to-door each week. You sit at a meeting in the KH just listening to whats said, falling asleep. Keep your nose clean, smile at the Elders. Apart doing the odd item during Service meeting or giving a public talk which incidently I enjoyed doing.
I mean I didn't get all that worship and singing like I do now at the Pentecostal church I now attend. Nor did I get intense discussions as I do now with other Christians about scripture or Christian teachings. Theres no one telling me I have GOT to believe this or that teaching. I have GOT to be in this church to be saved.
If anything its harder being a Christian.
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My Kingdom Hall is near extinction!!
by RULES & REGULATIONS inour kingdom hall was started in 1973 with only 3 families totaling 13 people.it grew to 85 members in the early 90's and that's because many were related to these 3 families.with older members dying,the young leaving when they reach 18, 5 divorces and many disfellowshipped,the congregation is down to 26 members.talk about low morale.
where is jehovah's blessing now?
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I heard from someone who attended one of my local congregations that they only had about 20-25 attend on the Sunday they went. This in a congregation which at one time would get 150 easily in attendance on Sundays.
A lot of experts have said the JWs would not survive the internet, that they would be exposed.
Certainly it is having an effect. Information about the Watchtower is far more easier to get hold of now. We have sites like this one, Freeminds, Silentlambs etc etc. More spring up all the time set up by those of us who have left the WT. Even Christian websites now have sections on the JW's and their teachings. People are becoming more aware of what and who they are. When I became a JW in 1971 I could only find two books about them, and of course there was no internet. If I had what we have now back then there would have been no way that I would have become a JW.
This is what is happening when a JW calls now people can go to their computers and look them up. See what their teachings really are. See what they have done to peoples lives. When those with children see whats posted about JW 's and paedophiles they will think twice about having anything to do with them.
JW's calling on people will increasingly become aware that people are starting to ask questions about them and the Watchtower organisation. It will become increasingly more difficult to find anyone during the door-to-door work to become a JW.
Even now much of their increase comes internally from the families of JW's. But even this is starting to tail off.
They will eventually be left with a central core, the die-hards, those whose life has always revolved round the WT.
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How to get a scriptual divorce?
by helncon injust wondering on how it is possible to get a scriptual divorce as my dad needs to get one but as much research done i can't see how he can get one but he says he has spoken to some elders and that they have said it can be granted but on what grounds?.
i know if you have committed adultery and extreme cases disertion but other that these is there any way else.. you see my mum basically up and left my dad and they have reconciled once but now its definately over and have a legal divorce, so would disertion come under this catorgory?
also my mum has battled mental illness(mainly major depression) for as long as i can remember can he do it on the grounds of mental capacity?.
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I once asked a lawyer friend what was the cheapest and quickest way to divorce.
His reply: "A shotgun"
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Answers to donating JW's about contributions, why not?
by restrangled inafter reading another post it came to me that any corporation, even non profit has to answer about funds collected and spent... which needs to be tallied by an outside accounting firm and made public for all to see.. i was the president of a large condo complex and every dollar spent, collected, etc., had to be accounted for and if there were any questions, i was available for answers.. so here is my question for the wbts,...why is it you feel you can collect, millions of dollars, perhaps billions and not answer to your contributors as to where this money went , where it was invested, what personnel recieved what, etc.
this needs to be answered by an outside firm that is nuetral and not sympathetic in anyway to your financial objectives.. do i think this will happen, no.
making the general public aware, priceless.. r.. r.. .
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