the thread on judicial committes reminded me of my last meeting.
as a jw elder.
a major rift had developed on the body of elders.
Lee, you're not alone. I'm personally acquainted with two kind-hearted and intelligent elders in the Tampa area who got pushed out by hard-liners ... especially a retired former CO ... who got fed up with their 'irrelevant' intelligence and compassion.
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
this is interesting: .
back in the days of early rome, the numbers of christians were increasing daily and the jews couldn't understand why these christians were no longer jews.
christians presented a problem to the roman empire.
Celcus rocks:
Let no one educated, no one wise, no one sensible draw near. For these abilities are thought by us to be evils. But as for anyone ignorant, anyone stupid, anyone uneducated, anyone who is a child, let him come boldly.Yeah, baby. Tell it. Testify!
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
granted that the wtbts is, in general, anti-abortion.
interestingly, i can't find a reference to it in the _pay attention_ elders' manual, although tobacco and breast caressing are worthy of mention as being offensive.. i have encountered reports that the official wtbts abortion teaching includes the idea that an unborn child who dies as a result of abortion or miscarriage is considered not to be eligible for a resurrection in paradise earth, let alone a residence in heaven.. isn't this more than a little inconsistent with the wtbts "body equals soul" teaching?
if an unborn child is not considered human and is so denied a future, then why is a jw female punished (by being disfellowshipped, i assume) if she has an abortion?.
IIRC, to the WT's professional gnat-filterers, the body must breathe ("the breath of life") to be a living soul. Something about how the Hebrew word for "soul" is suggestive of breathing. Fetuses, no matter how advanced, don't breathe.
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
recently i came across an.
interesting study/research article and i .
would like to share with you the following :.
Get real, man. WTS is all about concentrating power in the hands of a few, not spreading it out to be shared by all. You might as well preach to Saddam Hussein about the virtues of tolerance.
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
the book "who wrote the bible?
" by richard friedman is the best single source i've found for explaining the origins of the torah.
the "documentary hypothesis", now almost universally accepted, posits that the "five books of moses" were in fact written by at least four people as late as the return from exile.
Yeru: Deuteronomy reflects the sensibilities of a much later time than do the other four books. I hardly think Deuteronomy contains any of the primitive material.
my question is,if it is true that only j.w's will survive then surely everybody on the planet should at least get the option of becoming a witness,but there are people living in remote parts of the world who rarely come into contact with civilisation,im pretty sure there are still small tribes of people living in some rainforest who haven't even been discovered yet,where do theses people fit in,do they just perish like the rest of us?.
sorry if this is a daft question,been on the guinness all night!
If preaching skill makes a difference, then people may live or die depending on how eloquent a given JW is on a given morning. That's not just.
If preaching skill makes no difference, and all righteous are guaranteed to hear what they need to hear.... well, then, what's the rush? Kick back and enjoy your weekend!
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
yep, here we go again --- yet another article about a .
witness surviving nazi persecution (awake dec.22, 01).
the society seems obsessed with nazis - i would think.
Nazis are useful rhetorical targets because no one of consequence sticks up for them (and rightly so).
There's a rule on Usenet called Godwin's Law. It states that as a thread grows, the chance of someone mentioning Hitler or the Nazis approaches certainty. Also, whoever first brings them up is deemed to have lost the argument; and the thread ends immediately.
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
well, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!
no, we dont want back in.
a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).
I'm not sure I'd even want to attend a memorial if it would go that way. I might just hold a memorial service of my own.
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
hello folks,.
please dissect this one for me.. *** w97 5/1 29 questions from readers ***.
questions from readers.
wannahelp: Yeah, that fits. They want to have their world and end it, too!
the bible contradicts itself in the matter of god's omniscience.
the author of deuteronomy says that god has to perform a test to learn if one of his chosen people love him: .
why would an all-knowing god have to perform a test to learn something?
I consider that the doctrine of free will requires that God not exercise "prior restraint", so to speak. Even a person inclined to good may choose to do evil, and vice versa. So even an omnicient God would have to wait to see what we do before judging us for it.
If you really want to point out the ridiculousness of the Bible, you should highlight the places where free will is implicitly denied. For example, why are innocent children killed along with populations of (presumably responsible) adults in acts of divine judgement, not to mention Israel's many wars?
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Chip Salzenberg: Free-Floating Agent of Chaos
