Oftentimes those who comment on deep levels are boring bastards anyway in everyday life. If a deep thinker/commenter has an attractive personality, it's more tolerable to the conductor.
Gumshortandtothepoint
how many of you found that the 'deeper' your comments at the wt or bookstudy, the less the conductor called on you?
Oftentimes those who comment on deep levels are boring bastards anyway in everyday life. If a deep thinker/commenter has an attractive personality, it's more tolerable to the conductor.
Gumshortandtothepoint
i have lots of pets: three horses; three parrots; three cats; and lots of fish.
i love my pets because they make my life whole.
please show the pets that you love!.
Here's my pet hog "lumpy". We had to put him down from testicular cancer. Poor bastard.
i just read the mary/gumby where are they thread.
i want to say right from the start that i like gumball very much.
i've talked by phone to him in the past and we've had some discussions here over the years.
Hey sweetie.....I'm amazed (and impressed) that you posted this admission and it shows your true depth of character
Either that, or it shows I have no self respect. After bein a nutsac polisher for so long, your self worth kinda goes down the tubes.
Seriously....thanks me favorite concubine...that was a sweet thing to say.
Off to bed for my early mornin paper route
me's
i just read the mary/gumby where are they thread.
i want to say right from the start that i like gumball very much.
i've talked by phone to him in the past and we've had some discussions here over the years.
The old gang would've mercilessly beaten him to death. They would've considered him a traitor
What old gang Min? I AM the old gang.
Actually....you may be right about this. I think the longer this site remains, the more tolerable it becomes and the more understanding it becomes. Every thought you can think of has been covered here.....except for experiences from various posters. The longer this site remains, the more stories we here and the more we learn about recovery and various scenario's various ones encounter. I actually think we have become better equiped to deal with each other than we did years ago and have become more "dub smart". Hey, did I just invent a new word?
I'd also like to thank everyone who has supported me in this as it hasn't been easy.....and still isn't easy. This is all new to me and time will tell how things will transpire.
Btw.....i'm still shinin sacs case any of ya are wonderin
Gumbuffer
i just read the mary/gumby where are they thread.
i want to say right from the start that i like gumball very much.
i've talked by phone to him in the past and we've had some discussions here over the years.
When you think about it, what's the big difference when someone remains a JW, doesn't get df'd but remains a Witness in name only----maybe because they don't want to be losing their family and someone who goes back WITH THE VIEW that it's only being done for family considerations??
Minimus, this is the most profound statement I've ever heard from you There have been countless threads here on JWD concerning how many here are still attending meeting for sake of family and there are quite a few who still do. I remember how mad I used to get at posters who still attended meetings after finding out the truth about the truth. I used to think I'd rather sacrifice everything I had before I'd set foot in the hall again. As time went by I read various stories here about the REASONS why some remained a witness in name only and many of their reasons began to make sense to me. Some had aging parents who didn't want to break their parents heart just before they died. Some couldn't bare the thought of losing their children. Some did it knowing they were moving away from their town and figured it would be best to just be forgotten rather than remembered as an apostate and have talk generated about them. For me, I was falling apart emotionally as I felt like I was left alone on a deserted island. My grandkids were getting older by the minute and my daughter was also getting older without me in her life. I had many friends but friends didn't fill the empty void I felt. I figured I would give it a try since many on the forum here were still in by name only and they were surviving. I also was an advocate on JWD of "fading" rather than making a statement to the brothers that you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses and inviting heartache into your life by being shunned by loved ones when there was another option.....that of fading. My main reason for doing this was because I feared I would take my life since I was close to that point until my daughter came over and had a long talk with me with the end result being ....."even though I didn't believe the religion was truth, it was at least a clean life with clean friends I would have along with having my family back". That's the way my daughter saw it at least, however I knew I could live a clean life and have clean friends without being a witness. My reason was for my sanity and my family. If I write anymore on this....it's gonna cost ya all 2 bucks plus tax. Gumswindler Gumby
a friend of mine who is df'd is seriously considering trying to get reinstated in order to have his family back in his life.
this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.
he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.
Betrayal of the self comes at too high a cost.
Does one REALLY betray themselves if they are just playing a game to gain their family back? A sacrifice yes, but betrayal of self might be a strong word. If the payoff is keeping away from suicide and having your family back, perhaps the sacrifice is worth it. The organisation doesn't leave many options to choose from.
Gumby
i just read the mary/gumby where are they thread.
i want to say right from the start that i like gumball very much.
i've talked by phone to him in the past and we've had some discussions here over the years.
Gummeister, regarding service, go. Go out on break for an hour, arrange going on RVs and most won't be home anyway. Visit the elderly (while out in service), check on the sickly ones.
Minimus, funny you should be the one to start this thread as I was going to contact you about this mess I'm in.
Your idea about me going out in service would break a promise I made myself about something I said I would NEVER do.......but it might be in my best intrest to do so if it would be in my best intrest to do so.......at least for a short time.
The P.O. in my hall thinks the world of me and fondly remembers us two going in the ministry together and has brought it up several times already as he keeps saying..."when your knee gets better, you and I will have to work together again as I loved the last time we worked together". I love this man and don't have a clue on how to repeatedly get out of turning him down. Your idea might be one I'll have to do my friend. Hey...I already placed a "reasoning book" with my neighbor! Actually, he knows my story and I placed it with him so he could compare the witness religion with others as he's appauled by them and their past treatment of me.......so me's got in about 45 minutes and placed one book so far.......yee haw!!!!!.....am I pioneer material or what?
I gotta run but I promise I'll do a thread on all this fiasco.
Gumballsacbastard
i just read the mary/gumby where are they thread.
i want to say right from the start that i like gumball very much.
i've talked by phone to him in the past and we've had some discussions here over the years.
Mary is charging me 30 dollars and hour to keep everyone posted about my life but I hate to tell the old gal I just found someone who's gonna only charge me minimum wage and give me a damn break........she's hearless I tell ya.
Hey folks, I haven't got time now, but I'll do a thread on all this soon as I need some advice on how to go about some things......such as how to get outta field service when they ask me......so put your thinkin caps on for me and have me some answers. I'm well liked in the hall and was a bit popular at one time so it ain't gonna be easy and I don't want to be too obvious that I'm pulling everyones chain in coming back.
Thanks Mary for helping me out here
Gumby
every major religion was started by a man - in an action that's pretty much like playing football - we just have to beat something and nirvana is ours.
if we can just break on through to the other side everything will be ok !.
does that thinking reflect the way women are ?.
Every major religion was started by a man
Let's not forget about the lovely Ellen White Mr. Paduan
........Gumby
it is little understood by christians what a difference there is between themselves and judaism; especially on the matter of whom god forgives and why.. a christian expects to sin against many people in the course of their life, but; proudly boasts that they aren't "perfect just forgiven.
" this is wrong by judaism's ethical, moral and theologic standards.. let me explain why.. in judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!.
if you steal from bob; only bob (the injured party) can forgive you.
Terry....but.....but.....but what about the guilt offering and the sin offering that the priests made to god in behalf of all the people with the goat and the bull.....wasn't that an offering that covered sins that didn't require physical restitution??
Gumby......who just adores your boobs