Now that is what I call a good shepard.Quote;...'Child abuse is a crime and elders are NEVER to suggest that parents call or do not call the police it is purely a personal decision.
That's like an elder seeing a child with a severe injury and saying...."Well ...I'm not saying anything or suggesting anything to the parents...that's their decision" What a bunch of horseshit!!!!What IS a shepard then?!!!!!!!!
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61Elder School Summation
by messenger infriday.
well sad to say it was not revelations of sweeping reform or "new light" on caring for the flock.
the first day was primarily rehash of old stuff.
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Today's Tower study and Dateline etc...
by biblexaminer ina few thoughts from this mornings tower study.. .
w10-15-01 ...satan and his wicked world are against us.
enemies may falsely accuse us, even in the courts of the land.
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OH!!!BTW.....I forgot to ask....What the hell are you doing up at this hour freddie? You should be spending time studying your BOTCHTOWER.
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Today's Tower study and Dateline etc...
by biblexaminer ina few thoughts from this mornings tower study.. .
w10-15-01 ...satan and his wicked world are against us.
enemies may falsely accuse us, even in the courts of the land.
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More wishy washy talk from the slave that the pubs have to try and figure out what the crap they mean in general.
HERES THE PART THAT TICKS ME...quote: 'It is God who declares true Christians righteous, based upon their faith in the sacrifice of Christ'.
Well..they got that statement right! They just don't believe it.
Only they out of all people, put their faith in Jesus sacrafice!
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Flag Waving vs Christianity
by Amazing insome jws who know i now wave the flag of the usa, point to me and say, "see how far you have gone down since leaving the organization!".
the bible does not say one word about national symbols of political origin.
the roman empire was littered with all kinds of national and military symbols as was egypt with its 'winged disc" that charles russell placed on the cover of studies in the scriptures.
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Amen amazing. If a christian wishes to display the country he lives in and is proud of, there is nothing scripturally against such an act.
This country has done some great things for it's people though it's highly imperfect as we all are.It has also done some bad things and still does...as we all do.
What is shamefull is an organization that demands it's adherants to not do the things you mentioned or else!
As you said, even the bible tells us to PRAY for the kings and nobles that we may all live a godly life. And they are his MINISTERS.
Would we protect our family from danger of ones trying to bring them harm? YES! Why would we not lay down our life for our fellow man if a justifiable issue comes up?
The bible say's:"No greater love does one have than to lay down his life for his fellow man"
I personally feel no need to fly the flag or be patriotic,but have no issue with those that do. Keep up your good posts my friend!!!!!!! -
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A Doubting JW
by swyzzel inhey all.
i very much enjoy the website because i have been doubting jw's for years and now i finally get enough courage to check out what other people think.
i am a third generation jw so i have been apart of this religion since before i was born.
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Swyzzel: Nice to have a young person as yourself with us. Many here have learned much from the book 'crisis of conscience" written by once governing body member Raymond franz. It tells of the inner working's of the society that has taught all of the publishers the things you are uncomfortable with right now. This is the book that was the clencher for many of us here as it was the only book written by a former governing body member who knew what others did not know.
All that is said in it is documented so you can check the truthfulness of it's contents for yourself.
As for the fred hall guy....he is still a witness which is why his statements to you are not encouraging. Actually he is well liked here for his off the wall humor...just don't take him serious...as I said...he is a witness.We all look forward to you sharing with us my friend. Take care -
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I think we've been found out!
by TweetieBird inthere have been a few things that have happened the past couple of weeks that makes me think that the word is being spread that we are "apostate.".
first, a sister that i have known since i was a teenager, looked me dead in the eyes and did not even acknowledge me, twice in the same store.
that didn't bother me because i have never liked her.
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TweetieBird: Sounds like you have a major horndog bro.in law. Do you think it would be good to tell his wife? Dosen't sound at all fair to his wife that she is being cheated on over and over. I can relate to his reasoning (although a warped reasoning)...heres why. When I was a servant in the cong. I smoked weed and I can remember my reasoning. I wouldn't dare commit adultry or things of the like and I even counciled publishers when they erred. So for some reason I could overlook the weed thing yet was so staunch in other matters and even was exemplary to other elders/ms in taking the lead.
This reasoning is typicall with cults.
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The Unforgivable Sin
by expatbrit inone of those phrases that jw's always seem to (amusingly) lower their voices when saying is "the unforgivable sin".
this is defined as, i believe, grieving the holy spirit.. when i was a witness, it was generally assumed that adolf hitler had committed the unforgivable sin.
presumably because he wasn't taken in with the wt's brown-nosing of the nazis.
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Quote: "Anyone willfully and obstinately continuing to practice sin after he knows the truth is not forgiven"
I guess then there are not any obedient witnesess that willfully practice sin! They just are not aware they are sinning when they sin...it totally escapes their notice. It's only the bad witnesess that KNOW they are sinning and those are the ones that will die at armaggedon!
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My flood questions
by Moxy ini know these topics have been well-covered in many places.
this is just me wanting to compile a list of concise reasons why i am sure the wt interpretation of the deluge is untenable.
this is my first draft.
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Well that didn't work!I need to learn how to put hyperlinks in my posts. Any ideas...anyone?
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My flood questions
by Moxy ini know these topics have been well-covered in many places.
this is just me wanting to compile a list of concise reasons why i am sure the wt interpretation of the deluge is untenable.
this is my first draft.
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You could look at some apologist answers to you questions
Try some of these sites. The Talk.Origins Archive: The Age of the Earth FAQs The Talk.Origins Archive: Flood Geology FAQsDefense Documents What Do The Scriptures Say?
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Everyone of you is a big fake and is not real!
by Mindchild inmy favorite movie is the matrix.
the more i watch it the more i have come to realize that every single one of you people on this board are not real.. yes, you heard me right...you are all just a simulation, and a fiendishly clever one i might add.. i suspected that this virtual world was the result of some new sophisticated computer simulation.
i know for sure im right now.
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Well then I ain't showing up for work tomarrow if I ain't really here!
They will never miss me