Posts by gumby

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Screaming: "JEHOVAH!!!", at work.

by Amazing in

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in the early 1980s, i worked at bechtel corporation in san francisco.

i commuted 45 miles one way each day in heavy traffic, taking a total time of 11-12 hours per day from the time i left home until i arrived home from work.

in addition, i traveled a great deal for the company, spending many hours on airplanes.

gumby

Gumby "Is that what you prefer?

I was JOKIING!

Don't be so serious. I would put a smily on this post but do not know how.

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since the bible makes it clear that jesus believed in the scriptural account of the flood and since the evidence that a worldwide flood as described in that same scriptural account would have been virtually impossible, why should anyone trust jesus to be man's redeemer and the only begotten son of god?.

farkel

gumby

Farkle: Quote... This apology is particularly pathetic because it is asserted that the Hebrews didn't have a language well enough developed to have a word that described only a particular region. No! They only had a phrase which described the entire earth and which could either mean the actual entire earth, or the adjoining two block to one's house! How ridiculous

I have wondered why God did not explain things PRECISE many times over.
Why couldn't he have said things like this...(if the trinity were not true)
God " I am God. Long ago I created a son seperate from me and he is lesser than me. I was before he was because I created him"

Or...( if man IS a soul)
God " A man IS a soul. He dosen't have a soul that is seperate from him...when he dies , so does his soul, then nothing about him lives and he has to wait until I reserrect him later on.

Wouldn't it be nice if he wrote the bible like this...How come he didn't?

There would be little if any differing religious ideas on scripture,hence less religions, hevce less problems, hence, blah blah blah!

Why didn't he?
Could it be that not much FAITH would be needed if All THINGS were crystal clear?

Would we need faith to believe, if we knew all things?
If this was God's reason ....and I'm not saying it is....then possibly this is why we do not know if he flooded the whole land, or only parts of it,... and he said it like he did.

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How Many DF'ing Offences Have You Committed?

by Englishman in

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i must confess that her ladyship and i lived together for 6 months before we got married, so that must be, er...say 200?.

then we used to spend 3 nights a week gambling in tiberiuss casino, even after we got married, so.....umm, say another 250?.

i must have eaten black pudding, say, 100 times?.

gumby

: How Many DF'ing Offences Have You Committed?
All of them.

Well Farkle stole what I was going to say but I think I have some he dosen't have on his list.....I have never given an animal a blood transfusion, or smuggled drugs across the border.( I said ACROSS the border)

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Screaming: "JEHOVAH!!!", at work.

by Amazing in

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in the early 1980s, i worked at bechtel corporation in san francisco.

i commuted 45 miles one way each day in heavy traffic, taking a total time of 11-12 hours per day from the time i left home until i arrived home from work.

in addition, i traveled a great deal for the company, spending many hours on airplanes.

gumby

Why didn't you just come right out and say I fell asleep and had a bad dream and so I called out to God to save me?

I wonder which part would be the most embarrsing....
1. Telling everyone you fell asleep, or
2. Explaining who Jehovah is?
I remember witnessing when there was a bunch of workmates standing there listening would have been embarrasing.....but not one on one.

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WT 4/1/2002 - "Should Faith Be Based on Re...

by Scully in

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honestly, i read the first paragraph and burst out laughing.

do they not have a clue that this applies to their own followers??.

i've included the first article, and am mid-way through transcribing the second one, which i'll finish tomorrow when i come home from work.. feel free to comment too!.

gumby

When your a dub....you just never apply it to yourself or the Borg

I like this part..."their message of ‘believe in Jesus and you will be saved’ makes light of serious Bible study".

Belief in Jesus and you will be saved IS the message in all the bibles I have checked.

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WT U-Turn on "Great Crowd" (May 1, 20...

by stevieb1 in

the following is taken from questions from readers p.31 of the my 1, 2002 watchtower.

it is the wt response to the question: "when john saw the "great crowd" rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple, in which part of the temple were they doing this?".

quote.

gumby

Vague and obscure! Typicall writing style is it not, for the WBTS?
I remember articles like these that you couldn't make sense of and so you would not think about it anymore.....just except it.

Thats just the reason ones accept the things they do with the society.
It's to confusing to explain so just accept it.

No wonder everyone yawns at the meeting when articles similar to these are discussed.

What was the point of that QFR anyway? How did it change the GC understanding? What was the point?

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!!!!PROOF !!!! that this site is monitored !!!

by avengers in

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i received this e-mail this morning.. we are terminating you membership at plnet after being shown this link:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23419&site=3.

dan, plnet webmaster.

gumby

Yea! Whats PLN? Me and NM are lost!

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Why love God?

by joelbear in

should we love god and have faith in him because we are afraid of being annihilated if we don't?.

should we love god so we can be paid for it by getting a "mansion in the sky" or everlasting life or some other reward payment?

gumby

Dont you mean......xxx your brothers, WBTS

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Why love God?

by joelbear in

should we love god and have faith in him because we are afraid of being annihilated if we don't?.

should we love god so we can be paid for it by getting a "mansion in the sky" or everlasting life or some other reward payment?

gumby

Hello?

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Dont blame the witnesses, its the Bible...

by sleepy in

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dont blame the witnesses, its the bible's fault.. well you can blame them for trying to stick to the thing, but belief in the bible is the main problem.. i've heard the gb and witnesses be called evil by some, as though they have gone out to hurt people on purpose.. but i doubt that this is true, at least in recent times.. no the problem comes from believing the bible is god's word and trying to interpret it and follow it.. what happens when you do so?.

you get the catholic inquisition,people burnt at the stake,you get jews fighting for a promised land, religious groups who let their children die and a host of other problems.. i ask a question.if you were god and were going to have a book written on how man should live, would you do it in such a way that if misinterpeted or taken too literaly or mistranslated slightly , could result in the death and suffering of thousands of people,and would enslave people to false religious beliefs?.

yes there are good points and principles in the bible, mainly the words of jesus, who didn't write any of it himself.. but a few good principles don,t outweight the bad done in the name of the bible through the past 2000 years.. the society has tried to follow the bible, and take it for real .in doing so they have had to take on beliefs and ideas that can ultimatly cause harm.. it is like me reading a instruction manuel for my car, that is a fake written by a non-expert.if i follow that manuel , although it may not be all wrong, some instuctions could be in error and cause damage to my car and risk injury to other people.. if people then come along after and say "well its not the manuel thats wrong , you've just misunderstood it , look if you do it this way,that way..".

gumby

Has god answered anything in a verifiable way during the last 500 years????

In what manner do you think he should answer?